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    Psychology of road safety

    For those who have too much time on their hands.

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    Interesting thoughts on road safety. And the arguments as to why driver education isn't the golden egg it's made out to be.

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    I like the last bit. I do a presentation to year 12 and 13 students to show how their brain develops and why they are at risk, particularly if they are driving with passengers. Combine this with a few slides of crash scene photos to grab their attention. Seems to be well received.

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    i dont agree totally on some of their deductions. Racing and rally drivers have more accidents. That is almost certinly due to the fact that those indiviuals have a totally different risk perspective than normal people. You might find for example that people who bungy jump have more accidents than "normal"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    I like the last bit. I do a presentation to year 12 and 13 students to show how their brain develops and why they are at risk, particularly if they are driving with passengers. Combine this with a few slides of crash scene photos to grab their attention. Seems to be well received.
    Delivering knowledge misses the mark. Unless it relates to changing attitude. Our road use is a product of our attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Delivering knowledge misses the mark. Unless it relates to changing attitude. Our road use is a product of our attitude.
    I would suggest that delivering knowledge to a new and young driver is absolutely critical to making them a safer driver.

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    No mention is really made about the quality of training. Also it starts of with a belief that good infrastructure is the biggest thing.
    Sounds lot like the global propoganda agenda road to zero type thing that basically humans can’t be trusted to travel independently anywhere.
    I agree that targeted enforcement makes a huge difference.
    The real issue with awareness and safety messaging is the people in charge of spending that money often deliver the message in too fancy a way and not in a way that connects with the target audience. The only time they prob got close in nz was the ghost chips ad.

    What really needs to happen is a glass corridor be built through the ICU ward at every hospital. At the end on that hallway will be the office where you get to collect your licence.

    Ive been lucky during my career to have received training from some really great people and I can assure you it mattered in the outcome at various close calls. What really matters is taking ownership of the responsibility we have as a driver to ourselves and others. That’s what’s missing for many people they stop thinking once they passed the test.

    As for the old vs young thing there’s a lot of obvious factors ignored there, eg the older new drivers will have gained experience just by being passengers and observing.
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    i've just done a roadie up round the nakei and back to the hutt valley and a lot of people are atrocious with following distances. Why dont we see adverts on this, and indeed things like explaining to people why their indicators are twice as fast, defensive driving tips etc?
    The government seems to think speed and alcohol are the only things that ever hurt anyone on the roads?
    Right now following too close is worse than it used to be as there's a lot of surprise pot holes there too.....

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    Yes agree, I get people following right up my arse when on the Open Road . I'm usually on Cruise Control set at 105kph....
    I think ..........you must be an F1 champ driver if you think you can stop in time, if I have to avoid something for some reason ????

    Potholes and possible shit on the road is my pet hate and the reason I pass everyone in front of me.
    I like a clear road in front. (on the bike that is !!!).

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    It's difficult to disagree with that because the various points are based on studies. Still, it's hard to believe that training only has a negative impact on driver/rider safety. A new driver has only a minimal understanding of what's involved in driving and has basically zero knowledge of vehicle control or road craft. Most do nothing to improve this situation. Statistics reportedly show that a driver who has been involved in a specific type of accident is even more likely than others to have a similar accident in future. They consider themselves a good driver so they do nothing to correct their behaviour. I have actually witnessed that.

    I'd be interested to know what Blackbird makes of this.
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    Could almost say that the study looks like it was written to confirm NZTAs main approach (confirmation bias) to road safety - that the only thing that really works is enforcement, and that any other approaches are not worthwhile
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    I live on the same hills as Jelly. I actually stopped my car (can't ride currently) on the way down the hill as dick wouldn't stop pounding my arse.
    Then carried on and he kept following as close. FFS.

    I regularly get caught up going into the twisty narrow part of the hill. I make a large break on them in the wide hairpin because I take a mc wide line.

    But then they catch up. I can't drive any faster as it's narrow with multiple driveways appearing and the risk of Mamals on bicycles exacting their health program.

    Like Jelly I could wallpaper my ensuite with racing certificates. But these cunts are clearly much sharper than me.
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