Scam. Watch out bike sellers on TM

**jasonu** · 7th February 2014, 16:15

Originally Posted by Oblivion

Also don't accept Paypal for money transfer.

Why not???

**F5 Dave** · 8th February 2014, 13:43

Because all these scams work on fact it can be backed out of. That's why it takes days to clear. Insufficient funds somewhere in the chain and bank pulls the plug. Bank wins. Scammer wins. Vender loses.

**Tazz** · 8th February 2014, 13:50

Is there anyway you can reverse the tables with this sort of thing (I can't think of any) or is it just a waste of time trying to mess with them yourself?

**rustyrobot** · 8th February 2014, 14:45

Originally Posted by Tazz

Is there anyway you can reverse the tables with this sort of thing (I can't think of any) or is it just a waste of time trying to mess with them yourself?

I don't think you'll be able to get any money out of them, but you can certainly have some fun and waste their time.

Check out... http://www.419eater.com/

**jasonu** · 8th February 2014, 14:57

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

Scammer wins. Vender loses.

Only if you are a fuckwit or some sort of a dreamer.

**F5 Dave** · 8th February 2014, 18:35

Or desperate. I had to talk a mate of the wiff out of a scam. I don't have any money to take sez she and they had made a mistake and were sorry about a competition so would pay her to avoid the bad publicity.

Solo mum. She desperately wanted to believe it. Took a while to convince her. Ok so she was weak of mind but that's not her fault. These guys are kunts.

subrmn · 9th February 2014, 08:52

ok so same thing is happening to me at the moment thank you for posting cheers I'm much more aware of it now yea I'm at stage he gona pay has any one informed trade me that scammers are working through there site

**Tazz** · 9th February 2014, 09:35

Originally Posted by subrmn

ok so same thing is happening to me at the moment thank you for posting cheers I'm much more aware of it now yea I'm at stage he gona pay has any one informed trade me that scammers are working through there site

They know. Quite often they will email you to let you know an overseas IP has been looking at/messaging your auction/classified and to be vigilant of that.

**pritch** · 9th February 2014, 12:09

One local KBer recently advertised a bike and very quickly had contact from a scammer. What I don't get is how anybody could actuually believe somebody from overseas wants their bike. Unless it's a Vincent Black Shadow or a Brough Superior or something equally as exotic they should be able to get one locally.

**Taxythingy** · 11th February 2014, 15:37

Re: not accepting PayPal

Originally Posted by jasonu

Why not???

Unless you live in the US, you won't get seller protection to cover you when the bastards claim it wasn't delivered/item as described/arrived damaged/unauthorised use of account/anything else they can think of, and then PayPal can reverse the transaction. If you have already taken the cash out of your account, you will owe PP the amount. You better have a good lawyer, proof of delivery (as specified in PP's T&C), full shipping insurance, guaranteed method of proving that something arrived damaged (to the satisfaction of shipping co & their insurers, without help from the scammer or PP) and everything else including your arse covered.

Just get them to wire all the money to you via WU, then ship.

**F5 Dave** · 11th February 2014, 16:49

Originally Posted by Taxythingy

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Just get them to wire all the money to you via WU, then ship.

You're kidding right? There are a heap of Western Union scams going on on TM currently. Was in our local rag today as a matter of course.

Just don't.

**jasonu** · 11th February 2014, 17:06

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

You're kidding right? There are a heap of Western Union scams going on on TM currently. Was in our local rag today as a matter of course.

Just don't.

Are you sure about that. If you are Western Unioned money they (WU) cut you a check or will give you cash on the spot depending on the amount. Scams involving WU that I have seen generally get YOU to WU money to Nigeria for shipping or to get your inheritance started after they have sent you a check for more than the purchase price.