Proposed rule changes

[codgyoleracer]

Yip,

Ive got a graduated licence system on file,But cannot implement it as there are not enough people I can trust to oversee it in ALL areas,Dan Ornsby would be excellent in Ch Ch,Glen W in Manawatu and the ART scheme in AK,Johnny or Damage in Timmers,But all other areas I have no faith in,The newly introduced 3 stamps in the past 12 months before competing at a national event or street race has shown up some serious areas of concern,At the moment.All new members are required to take a 25 question test,But as I don't see the results of these tests or even know if they actually take place,I cannot comment as to how that is working out and of course it doesnt cover those entering the sport through the 1 event system(Which I believe should be a lot more restrictive and only available to those who already have a record with MNZ).

As for the other subject,I will ring you tonight to discuss further

Geez, doesnt pay to retire - some bugger gives you a job ........, :-)
(happy to help)

[Shaun Harris]

[QUOTE=Billy;1130679590]Yip,

the 1 event system(Which I believe should be a lot more restrictive and only available to those who already have a record with MNZ).







I totally agree re the 1 event licence Billy, sorry for some to say ( Mainly the clubs needing the funds)

[budda]

[QUOTE=Moto-Dynamix;1130679673]

Yip,

the 1 event system(Which I believe should be a lot more restrictive and only available to those who already have a record with MNZ).







I totally agree re the 1 event licence Billy, sorry for some to say ( Mainly the clubs needing the funds)

HOLY CRAP !!!!!!!!! - that's three times in as many years we've agreed Gremlin ( or IS it really you ? )

[Shaun Harris]

[QUOTE=budda;1130679685]

HOLY CRAP !!!!!!!!! - that's three times in as many years we've agreed Gremlin ( or IS it really you ? )

haha man, it takes time for things to change, and I have!

[Triplenut]

Yip,

Ive got a graduated licence system on file,But cannot implement it as there are not enough people I can trust to oversee it in ALL areas,Dan Ornsby would be excellent in Ch Ch,Glen W in Manawatu and the ART scheme in AK,Johnny or Damage in Timmers,But all other areas I have no faith in,The newly introduced 3 stamps in the past 12 months before competing at a national event or street race has shown up some serious areas of concern,At the moment.All new members are required to take a 25 question test,But as I don't see the results of these tests or even know if they actually take place,I cannot comment as to how that is working out and of course it doesnt cover those entering the sport through the 1 event system(Which I believe should be a lot more restrictive and only available to those who already have a record with MNZ).

As for the other subject,I will ring you tonight to discuss further

Billy as a compromise for the current flawed day license system, what about requiring ALL riders to have a log book including Day license riders. Details of meetings, rider conduct, injuries etc could then be recorded.
Its not a magic bullet but would be an improvement and reasonable compromise... small steps and all that.
While our club doesn't like days licenses we find up to 25% of entries at some meetings are just that.
Many are experienced riders who simply find the cost of a full license prohibitive or are semi retied doing only a handful of meetings per year.

[Henk]

We get through a load of day licences, some of it is regulars who have either left theirs behind and some are semi regulars who don't want to comit or don't want to stump up the lump sum.
There are however a lot of folk trying racing for the first time.
We can probably get away with this though as we can give them the track to themselves for a bit since it's only buckets.
I'd hate to see the way things are change.

[Shaun Harris]

Billy as a compromise for the current flawed day license system, what about requiring ALL riders to have a log book including Day license riders. Details of meetings, rider conduct, injuries etc could then be recorded.
Its not a magic bullet but would be an improvement and reasonable compromise... small steps and all that.
While our club doesn't like days licenses we find up to 25% of entries at some meetings are just that.
Many are experienced riders who simply find the cost of a full license prohibitive or are semi retied doing only a handful of meetings per year.

I am not Billy obviously, I do see the good logic in that one mate. Good to see productive ideas instead of the other

[Kickaha]

Re your comment on MENTORS, I am assuming of course that is a man that I have written you a letter about to get him banned from ever having to do anything with Motorcycle racing again. ( DO you have a copy of letter saved so I can forward it for the rule changes dept coming up) I am very serious about it Billy, people like this can wreck a riders future due to being big headed WANKERS) they are not needed nor wanted. I see a certain man is on here all the time day in day out, but never posts a thing- hello U

What the fuck has any of that got to do with you? you sound just as much a big headed wanker as the guy you're slagging off and If someone wants to spend all their time on here and never post that's their choice

[Robert Taylor]

Stock Superbikes and 600s, right down to the chains...............

Yes as I recall that dodgy aftermarket shock you fitted ( land of milk and honey so everyone is told ) gave you some expensive tyre shredding issues for more than a few sleeps..........................

[Robert Taylor]

Well something's gotta change Shaun. Manufacturers, disti's and sponsors are hardly tripping over themselves to throw money at the sport. Most new potential racers are put off at the prospect of spending 60K+ PA on a niche sport with fuck all coverage in little old eNZed. The few racers that proceed are largely forced out by their credit card company after a year or two. Yes, motorcycle racing is expensive but it needn't be unnecessarily so. The fact that the pointy end of the field is largely comprised of dad's army speaks volumes.

1 x Mobile dyno + scales vs every rider spending stupid amounts every year. Hmmm...lets mull over that.

Std suspension...riders will adapt their style, conserve their tyres during racing and perhaps choose compounds that last a bit longer.

Maybe we are scaring away those that want to spend money by dumbing it down too much? Why is it that huge money is spent in car racing, as a basis of comparison?

There are two sides to an argument. No intention to get into an infamous Kiwi Bleater catfight, just stating a different train of thought.

[Shaun Harris]

What the fuck has any of that got to do with you? you sound just as much a big headed wanker as the guy you're slagging off and If someone wants to spend all their time on here and never post that's their choice

same as what your post has do with anything kick, just an opinion whether it be constructive or just idle crap, I am a wanker by the way, and enjoy doing it still




Thanks for the PM Wayne but as replied squire

[Robert Taylor]

AWSOME, that would be all ACC and the PO_LICE would need to kill the sport in that area

Paeroa will doubtless do that one day, I just pray the carnage and spectator kill count will be minimal

[Shaun Harris]

Maybe we are scaring away those that want to spend money by dumbing it down too much? Why is it that huge money is spent in car racing, as a basis of comparison?

There are two sides to an argument. No intention to get into an infamous Kiwi Bleater catfight, just stating a different train of thought.

No TV exsposure marketing keeps the money away for a start Robert, so dumbing it down ( as you say) to try and keep the grids fullish is perhaps not a bad way to go for now untill marketing off the sport is lifted better to justify any ROI. I agree pure race suspension is the best but but but

[codgyoleracer]

Yes as I recall that dodgy aftermarket shock you fitted ( land of milk and honey so everyone is told ) gave you some expensive tyre shredding issues for more than a few sleeps..........................

Ktech gave more grip than this ginga could use :-)

[scracha]

Maybe we are scaring away those that want to spend money by dumbing it down too much? Why is it that huge money is spent in car racing, as a basis of comparison?

There are two sides to an argument. No intention to get into an infamous Kiwi Bleater catfight, just stating a different train of thought.

Robert, I'm NOT advocating making every class production. Car racing has a far bigger user base and audience that attracts far more sponsors and it's disingenuous to imply that every car racing class costs megabucks. For sure, there's a fair few folks who want to spend stupid amounts of money racing. However, do we really need more than one "premier" class in our little country? It sounds spastic but does the "premier" class have to be the class that requires the most money? There's always BEARS and post classics for people that want to piss money away Your average weekend warrior hasn't got 30K to spend on a hobby that as Chopper puts it, might get them 10th place. Your potential next young Kiwi motorcycling superstar may decide on the balance of things, that motorcycle racing isn't worth their parents remortgaging their house. I suspect many MNZ weekend warrior members are a bit frustrated at the current situation.