Fair and equal justice for all?

**awa355** · 17th February 2014, 13:36

Poor bastard, How will he ever afford the ferry ticket to Waiheke Island?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11204124

**mashman** · 17th February 2014, 13:47

Castles made of sand fall in the sea eventually

**Akzle** · 17th February 2014, 13:50

well duh.
Jews - get off scott free.
Middle class crackers - get dragged through the courts, scared a bit, made to pay fine and costs, taken out of wages.
Blacks - go directly to jail. Do not pass go. Continue to collect 200$. (benny)

aahhhhh. Justice.

**jasonu** · 17th February 2014, 13:51

Originally Posted by mashman

Castles made of sand fall in the sea eventually

Not in his case as his wife appears to own all of the family castles. Put dogshit in his letter box I say.

**Bikemad** · 17th February 2014, 13:52

Originally Posted by awa355

Poor bastard, How will he ever afford the ferry ticket to Waiheke Island?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11204124

i bet he has a boat too.......sorry i mean his wife has a boat too

**BoristheBiter** · 17th February 2014, 14:01

But as it is his wife's houses shouldn't that be classed as matrimonial property?

All debts raised by one is shared equally by both, or does that only work in divorce?

**HenryDorsetCase** · 17th February 2014, 14:17

Originally Posted by BoristheBiter

But as it is his wife's houses shouldn't that be classed as matrimonial property?

All debts raised by one is shared equally by both, or does that only work in divorce?

depends. Not usually. But it will depend on a number of things like structures, who signed up for what etc. I wondered whether this was something that was an insured thing. I doubt it somehow.

I have been following the proceedings and filling in a few blanks from my own experience. I doubt that a three line harold article will give the true flava.

It might be an empty gesture if he doesnt have half a mill to give back, eh?

**HenryDorsetCase** · 17th February 2014, 14:21

Here's a Lor Talk article which gives some more detail about what went down.

http://www.lawsociety.org.nz/lawtalk...s-overcharging

What the wife needs to do is trade him in for Juan the poolboy: then he'd be fucked because the structuring probably includes a PRA agreement....

**BoristheBiter** · 17th February 2014, 14:50

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

Here's a Lor Talk article which gives some more detail about what went down.

http://www.lawsociety.org.nz/lawtalk...s-overcharging

What the wife needs to do is trade him in for Juan the poolboy: then he'd be fucked because the structuring probably includes a PRA agreement....

Fuck that would be funny.

She would be like "get your broken white arse out of my house".

**BoristheBiter** · 17th February 2014, 14:52

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

depends. Not usually. But it will depend on a number of things like structures, who signed up for what etc. I wondered whether this was something that was an insured thing. I doubt it somehow.

I have been following the proceedings and filling in a few blanks from my own experience. I doubt that a three line harold article will give the true flava.

It might be an empty gesture if he doesnt have half a mill to give back, eh?

Just thinking (I know first time for everything) can that be classed as fraud?

**HenryDorsetCase** · 17th February 2014, 15:33

Originally Posted by BoristheBiter

Just thinking (I know first time for everything) can that be classed as fraud?

not really. Fraud is a criminal offence. Criminal offences have a higher burden of proof (Beyond reasonable doubt) vs a civil claim (balance of probabilities).

Unfortunately for his victims (who, if you read that Law Talk article are now penniless and living in a council flat or whatever) the lawyers disciplinary process is the only justice they are going to get: They can't probably afford to sue him, and even if they did they wouldnt collect because, you know, he has no money.

the thing with these things is that he has to have seen it coming since probably 2009. so "putting his affairs in order" happened back then. Speculating, but she probably had to buy his half share of the properties and assets at valuation and with a PRA agreement (think about the market back then, allow a discount for a friendly valuer and a related party transaction and no commission...). that would have left her with debt but maybe covered by the rentals from the rental properties. The uplift in the market has benefitted her. His money likely went on (you guessed it) lawyers and maybe there is a fund there for reparations or something.

He probably hasn't committed any criminal offence.

Shitty end to a career though.

**phill-k** · 17th February 2014, 16:37

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

Here's a Lor Talk article which gives some more detail about what went down.

http://www.lawsociety.org.nz/lawtalk...s-overcharging

What the wife needs to do is trade him in for Juan the poolboy: then he'd be fucked because the structuring probably includes a PRA agreement....

Someone should take a photo of him photoshop it with a bird preferably someone they know in a compromised position and send it to her, she will boot him out and he really will be on the bones of his ass.