Ah "silent T' you're the man for me!

**mashman** · 19th February 2014, 12:43

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

Yes because then there will be zero independent news except what the lackeys and flunkies and PR drones and lobbyists sell to the highest bidder.

Al Jazeera and BBC excepted of course.

and Fox News which is my favourite

and Page 3.com

Add RT to the exceptions.

**Banditbandit** · 19th February 2014, 12:57

Originally Posted by Swoop

As said many times before, TVNZ must be sold off and privatised to ensure a neutral position in the media spectrum, rather than being a political propaganda machine.

Just like Fox News is ... and the BBC and PBS are not ???

And it is clearly demonstrable that our news media supports the capitalist agendas anyway ... how neutral is that ??

Originally Posted by carbonhed

Absolutely but I'm not criticising him for being filthy rich now am I? I'm criticising him for being a dishonest little shitbag... over and over and over again... and being stupid enough to get caught over and over and over again.

Just like any politician ay ?? Is it a requirement of the job description do you think?

**oldrider** · 19th February 2014, 13:07

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Just like Fox News is ... and the BBC and PBS are not ???

And it is clearly demonstrable that our news media supports socialist agendas anyway ... how neutral is that ??

Fixed that for you! It's not like you to get things so completely wrong!

What were you thinking?

**mashman** · 19th February 2014, 13:36

Originally Posted by oldrider

Fixed that for you! It's not like you to get things so completely wrong!

What were you thinking?

What was the difference?

**carbonhed** · 19th February 2014, 13:40

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Just like any politician ay ?? Is it a requirement of the job description do you think?

I'm more than happy you keep telling yourself that as long as Key stands with 59.3 per cent of people liking him, and 58.7 per cent also trusting him.

Cuntlippes can't muster a fraction of that in his own caucus.

**Banditbandit** · 19th February 2014, 13:47

Originally Posted by carbonhed

I'm more than happy you keep telling yourself that as long as Key stands with 59.3 per cent of people liking him, and 58.7 per cent also trusting him.

Cuntlippes can't muster a fraction of that in his own caucus.

What ?? A 4million blowflies can't be wrong argument? Are you suggesting that public confidence is a measure of a politician's truth-telling ???

You can't possibly be serious ..

(And who said I was leaving Silent T out of the statement?)

**Swoop** · 19th February 2014, 13:58

Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner

Considering your complaint is that they are backing the opposition, it's clearly not the fact that they're government owned that's causing the supposed bias.

The problem is that TVNZ is the default mouthpiece of government. ANY government - red or blue.
Secondly is the blatant waste of taxpayers money on this entity. Have anyone searched the salary range their management and presenters are on? I had a look recently, perhaps others should see what our tax dollars are getting.

And get rid of fucking coronation st asap!

**carbonhed** · 19th February 2014, 14:01

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

What ?? A 4million blowflies can't be wrong argument? Are you suggesting that public confidence is a measure of a politician's truth-telling ???

You can't possibly be serious ..

(And who said I was leaving Silent T out of the statement?)

Public confidence translates into electability. And I'm ecstatic that you and your enormous brain haven't picked up on that. Instead you keep desperately flogging the dead horse of ShonKey hoping that after nearly a decade of trying the same old shit, somehow, miaraculously, it will work.

Keep it up. Keep underestimating John Key. Helen Clark did, Phil Goff did, mumblefuck did and soon "silent T" will get his too.

**Banditbandit** · 19th February 2014, 14:40

Originally Posted by carbonhed

Public confidence translates into electability. And I'm ecstatic that you and your enormous brain haven't picked up on that.

Oh .. I get that all right .. no worries there .. but we were talking about honesty - as per this post here ...

Originally Posted by carbonhed

Absolutely but I'm not criticising him for being filthy rich now am I? I'm criticising him for being a dishonest little shitbag... over and over and over again... and being stupid enough to get caught over and over and over again.

You seem to be the one who can't keep the threads of the topic in your head - even tho' they are written down - and you did the writing .. NOthing wrong with my brain ... the issue seems to be with you and yours ...

Now I'm wondering whether it is worth discussing topics with someone who's mind wanders aimlessly in such a random fashion ..

Instead you keep desperately flogging the dead horse of ShonKey hoping that after nearly a decade of trying the same old shit, somehow, miaraculously, it will work.

I'm not trying to make anything work - what do you think I am trying to achieve ??? I regard all politicians as inherently dishonest and untrustworthy ..

Keep it up. Keep underestimating John Key. Helen Clark did, Phil Goff did, mumblefuck did and soon "silent T" will get his too.

Yes .. and ??

You seem to think I support Clark, Goff and Silent T ... you could not be more wrong ... I do not underestimate John Key - nor do I over estimate the intelligence of yer average voter ..

**MisterD** · 19th February 2014, 14:52

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Just like Fox News is ... and the BBC and PBS are not ???

The BBC is so inately biased that they can't even see it themselves.

Fox is a privately-owned company that has decided that taking an opposing editorial stance to the left-leaners like NBC is a commercially smart move - they've been proved right, haven't they.

Anyway the point I want to make is that it's only state-owned broadcasters that have a need to be unbiased. Any other media can be as biased as they like, as long they're upfront about it. IMO the success of blogs is that you the bias of the blogger and can read their opinions through that lens.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 19th February 2014, 14:54

Originally Posted by Swoop

The problem is that TVNZ is the default mouthpiece of government. ANY government - red or blue.
Secondly is the blatant waste of taxpayers money on this entity. Have anyone searched the salary range their management and presenters are on? I had a look recently, perhaps others should see what our tax dollars are getting.

And get rid of fucking coronation st asap!

broadcast TV is for people who can't understand torrents. apparently. I am more than happy to sit around waiting for someone to show me a show at the time they think I should watch it. Then rip it to pieces by having ever longer and more intrusive commercial breaks. And because we have more ads than anyone even Mrky, cutting crucial scenes so that the commercials will fit in. And not adhering to the scene breaks built into the shows so they just cut the motherfuckers randomly. I love hearing from my friend the Briscoes lady (MIIIILLLLF) and my other friends Harvey Norman and Noel Leeming about their wonderful products and such. Yes indeedy.

**Mike.Gayner** · 19th February 2014, 14:54

Originally Posted by Swoop

Secondly is the blatant waste of taxpayers money on this entity. Have anyone searched the salary range their management and presenters are on? I had a look recently, perhaps others should see what our tax dollars are getting.

And get rid of fucking coronation st asap!

It's not a waste of taxpayer money, it's a profit-maker.

**Banditbandit** · 19th February 2014, 15:28

Originally Posted by MisterD

The BBC is so inately (serious cut) through that lens.

You missed my point - ALL news medias is biased ... free market AND State-run ..

**The Reibz** · 19th February 2014, 15:48

Fuck if I had 700,000 coming into this house I would be driving a one off built custom maserati every day to my private plane. Still wouldn't donate cash to worthy causes either
Middle class hard bro