New road racing commissioner required

**budda** · 27th February 2014, 07:18

Originally Posted by Billy

Well somebody is going to have to put their hand up,I'm surprised theres a sudden shortage of experts,Whats happened to all the people that have been so quick to criticise over the last few years????

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last FEW years ???????? Good to see your sense of humour is still going strong mate !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**budda** · 27th February 2014, 07:22

Originally Posted by Moto-Dynamix

To ever make this roll work correctly, the board needs to change big time, for example,

1) how can a person who sells after market motorcycle parts be seen as not having conflicting interests

2) how can people that do not live on a certain Island represent that Island, that is not how the committee was set up to run

3) The board needs to be educated to support the commisioner, not the other way around as it is currently

4) This roll needs a base Salary

5) if a rule states OEM, then the machine in question should be as OEM, and not have any metal removed, this is NOT up the to interpretation of the board, if any doubts pick up a dictionerry to clarrify this decision.

Re #5 - NOT the Board guys, an Appeal Committee of "experienced Stewards"

**Robert Taylor** · 27th February 2014, 07:30

Originally Posted by Billy

Well somebody is going to have to put their hand up,I'm surprised theres a sudden shortage of experts,Whats happened to all the people that have been so quick to criticise over the last few years????

Time for them to front up and put their money where their mouths have been.......Tui add appropriate here I think !!!
I'll get back to you about the rest of your post at a later date.

That line of thinking is a little emotive Billy. Although there were a few issues I personally disagreed with you on that doesnt by any means require ''pistols at dawn''. You can agree to disagree but still have a convivial relationship.

For all of my voting life I have steadfastly been a National voter and from time to time have given the local MP a donation at election time. Mainly its ''a lesser of the evils'' mentality as the alternatives dont bear thinking about, especially that Australian prick in the Snifter party.

Whoever is installed is not immune from criticism and thats a democratic right

**Shaun Harris** · 27th February 2014, 07:37

Originally Posted by budda

Re #5 - NOT the Board guys, an Appeal Committee of "experienced Stewards"

Budda or Billy, please educate me.

1) Where do I find the details of who is on the road race board and the guidelines for those on it and operating the board please. The MNZ web site is a bloody night mare to try and find any details in unless you have all day to waste

2) please supply me with a TOTAL number of road race licence holders in NZ ie 367 holders or what ever it may be

Budda, are you saying that these decisions should be made by an appeal committee and not the current board? if so, please give your reasoning to this mate.

**budda** · 27th February 2014, 07:39

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

That line of thinking is a little emotive Billy. Although there were a few issues I personally disagreed with you on that doesnt by any means require ''pistols at dawn''. You can agree to disagree but still have a convivial relationship.

For all of my voting life I have steadfastly been a National voter and from time to time have given the local MP a donation at election time. Mainly its ''a lesser of the evils'' mentality as the alternatives dont bear thinking about, especially that Australian prick in the Snifter party.

Whoever is installed is not immune from criticism and thats a democratic right

No-one I know who's actually done the job went in expecting to be a criticism-free zone - Criticism is generally healthy, but I believe what Herr Von Billington is getting at is that there are innumerable critics out there telling each other and anyone who'll listen, that they could do a much much better job

If you ( not you, you know what I mean ) are one of them, GOOD NEWS - now's your chance to prove it

**Shaun Harris** · 27th February 2014, 07:44

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

That line of thinking is a little emotive Billy. Although there were a few issues I personally disagreed with you on that doesnt by any means require ''pistols at dawn''. You can agree to disagree but still have a convivial relationship.

For all of my voting life I have steadfastly been a National voter and from time to time have given the local MP a donation at election time. Mainly its ''a lesser of the evils'' mentality as the alternatives dont bear thinking about, especially that Australian prick in the Snifter party.

Whoever is installed is not immune from criticism and thats a democratic right

Billy opened a can of worms on himself by getting on here and awnsering questions and making comments. He has done it with total commitment to our sport, but really caused himself a lot more work. If I was in his position, I would just stick too officual channells and correct processes for communicationg ( Emails and phone calls only) with the riders/teams/sponsors etc, and not use a public web site for conducting motorcycle buisness.

**budda** · 27th February 2014, 07:45

Originally Posted by Moto-Dynamix

Budda or Billy, please educate me.

1) Where do I find the details of who is on the road race board and the guidelines for those on it and operating the board please. The MNZ web site is a bloody night mare to try and find any details in unless you have all day to waste

2) please supply me with a TOTAL number of road race licence holders in NZ ie 367 holders or what ever it may be

Budda, are you saying that these decisions should be made by an appeal committee and not the current board? if so, please give your reasoning to this mate.

What I'm saying is that ANY Appeals are referred to a separate body, ( The Appeal Committee ) from my point of view to remove any perception/ accusations of undue influence etc
The members of this Appeal Committee are chosen from a pool of "suitable" folks each time

As for the current situation, clearly I have an opinion - but right now, on here, is not the place to share it

**Billy** · 27th February 2014, 07:46

Originally Posted by budda

If you ( not you, you know what I mean ) are one of them, GOOD NEWS - now's your chance to prove it

YES!!!! and I can here the turning of wagon wheels heading from Canterbury to Huntly as we speak

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NOT!!!

**scott411** · 27th February 2014, 07:48

Originally Posted by Moto-Dynamix

Budda or Billy, please educate me.

1) Where do I find the details of who is on the road race board and the guidelines for those on it and operating the board please. The MNZ web site is a bloody night mare to try and find any details in unless you have all day to waste

2) please supply me with a TOTAL number of road race licence holders in NZ ie 367 holders or what ever it may be

Budda, are you saying that these decisions should be made by an appeal committee and not the current board? if so, please give your reasoning to this mate.

MNZ does not have a road race board, it has an overall board, here is the list http://www.mnz.co.nz/contact-us

**Billy** · 27th February 2014, 07:53

Originally Posted by Moto-Dynamix

Billy opened a can of worms on himself by getting on here and awnsering questions and making comments. He has done it with total commitment to our sport, but really caused himself a lot more work. If I was in his position, I would just stick too officual channells and correct processes for communicationg ( Emails and phone calls only) with the riders/teams/sponsors etc, and not use a public web site for conducting motorcycle buisness.

I agree that this particular site is probably not the best to conduct MNZ business on AND YET,I have been rubbished by some for not using this site enough,Not to my face of course,Cause thats not how some operate,Thats why I purchased the domain name nzsbk.co.nz to set up a controlled enviroment for discussion to take place,That domain name is currently employed by Skunk and Leigh Presant to display the entries for NZSBK 2014,Dunno what I'll do with it after that.