Tightening the line?

[Katman]

You're not very good at rebutting.

You're just too used to hearing the word disingenuous.

[bogan]

You're just too used to hearing the word disingenuous.

Probably, but I'm also too used to being told to make counter arguments to my own points.

I think everyone is fairly aware of the mechanics of cornering at least, whether or not that falls into the realms of countersteering seems to be up to nitpicking.

[Katman]

I think everyone is fairly aware of the mechanics of cornering at least, whether or not that falls into the realms of countersteering seems to be up to nitpicking.

Once again, the OP certainly doesn't seem to have been.

And I'm sure he's not the only one.

[oneofsix]

Once again, the OP certainly doesn't seem to have been.

And I'm sure he's not the only one.

this thread is proof of your point. No matter where you stand it seems the opposing point has been advised within the thread

[AllanB]

10 pages and no one has suggested a Lithium battery yet .........

[Robbo]

10 pages and no one has suggested a Lithium battery yet .........

Hey!! How about trying a Lithium Battery...

[ducatilover]

Although I believe cruisers are different...

Is that a gay joke?

Youtubez videoz

Nice Kat.




And I am pretty certain I have made the most accurate answer in this thread.
$10 says he's being a dick and is too stiff.

[rocketman1]

Interesting thread. A lot of KBrs are obviously experts at this cornering lark.
Also interesting is that fact that 48% of motorcycle deaths in NZ are on corners.
I would like to say that until you have gone into a corner too fast and have almost collided with a car coming the other way, you probably don't know how frigging scary this experience is. This happened to me several years back and I believe I have learned from it.
I also know that when you have about 2/10 th of a second before impact, all the countersteering, track days, and other things you have read will not make any sense at all.
I know all this stuff and have ridden for many years and gone around probably 100,000 corners in perfect safety.
Then just one corner can change things forever.

All logic seems to go out the door, there is only one thing you are thinking about , is how to avoid the car.
Lucky for me the car driver was alert and swerved this gave me half a metre, I don't know why but I just stood on the pegs, forced the bike down with my left hand and foot ( it was a left had corner), these actions saved my life. I also think I used a bit of back brake, but not too sure.
I felt I had no time do anything else. It is fine to say do this / do that when it happens you have to do what comes naturally, and this worked for me. It was the closest call I have ever had.
I immediately had a sick feeling in my guts and I guess was in a bit of shock.
I said to myself " I will never ever exit a corner like this again".
This event changed my style of riding. I hope some readers learn from it.
IT WAS GREAT TO ARRIVE HOME AND BACK TO FAMILY THAT DAY. I felt a bit guilty in a strange way.


Two things I have learnt is
1) Concentrate, all the time.....especially on roads you are not familiar with.
2) Change down gears before going into corners, select a gear suitable for the corner.

Lastly slow down.

[Berries]

Interesting thread. A lot of KBrs are obviously experts at this cornering lark..

Well, we do it several times a day, what makes someone an expert? The fact that most people cannot write down what they do is neither here or there.

Also interesting is that fact that 48% of motorcycle deaths in NZ are on corners.

Killing yourself on a corner is a piece of piss. Killing yourself on a straight is quite a bit harder, unless you get someone else to join in the fun/take the blame.

[pritch]

Is that a gay joke?

Not at all. Most cruisers have completely different weight distribution and steering geometry. My reading indicates cruiser riders sometimes use different cornering lines and braking techniques, but I'm no expert having ridden cruisers on only a couple of occasions.

On reflection though, I don't recall ever having seen a photo of a cruiser rider doing what MM93 is doing with his Honda a page or so back.
(And no, that's not a gay joke either.)

[Metastable]

Ironically - this came out on ROadracingworld.com today.... not really related to the topic per say, but interesting how a teacher at Yale thought these guys (the trail braking school bunch) had excellent teaching skills. Nick is the one on a different level in the group picture.

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...ators-at-yale/

[Drew]

So, some tard red repped me saying my advice was maybe good for the track, but no good for the road.

I fail to see the difference in bike control, because of the surroundings. The fundamentals do not change.

[Metastable]

So, some tard red repped me saying my advice was maybe good for the track, but no good for the road.

I fail to see the difference in bike control, because of the surroundings. The fundamentals do not change.

I agree with you. However, folks tend to think that if you use "track skills" on the road, you must be riding too fast. Although on the street one can't take the same liberties as one would at the track, and the riding style on the street can be different, learning important riding skills should still be a must.

Also - aside from the fact that cars lean the wrong way.... many of the principals are the same. Increase speed in corner = wider line, decrease speed = tighter line, trail braking = easier cornering because the front suspension is loaded = more grip on the front tires, look where you want to go... etc. One can practice all of that in a cage. Although, cars can park themselves these days.... that's just not fair.

[James Deuce]

OH FFS, it's all a learning experience and part of the experience is trying things out and using what makes your life easier in a positive fashion.

[BuzzardNZ]

Hey!! How about trying a Lithium Battery...

I know they are supposed to be the dogs nuts ( or not ) , but do they also help you go round corners better too?
Ed would have you believe this!