The Ukraine

**mashman** · 7th March 2014, 08:30

Originally Posted by Swoop

In Sochi the Winter Olympics concluded. This was a success for Russia as none of the threatened Islamic terrorist attacks occurred.

What constitutes a terrorist attack?

**Swoop** · 7th March 2014, 09:24

Originally Posted by mashman

What constitutes a terrorist attack?

A black-widow turning herself into a not-very-smart-bomb.
A camel-jockey flying an aircraft into a high-rise (in Sochi this constitutes any 2 or 3 storey buildings or apartment blocks) since capitalist skyscrapers are "Nyet!".
Or anything that makes Saviour Of the Universe Putin have to interrupt his pre-breakfast bear-wrestling session, load a pistol and sharpen his knife then single handedly kill 200 men who threaten Glorious Russian Empire, before nipping down to the Nuclear Sub for a cold Stolichnaya.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 7th March 2014, 09:27

The Ukraine is Russia's Middle easet.

Its full of fucking oil.

So, that gives you an idea of how it will go.

**mashman** · 7th March 2014, 09:49

Originally Posted by Swoop

A black-widow turning herself into a not-very-smart-bomb.
A camel-jockey flying an aircraft into a high-rise (in Sochi this constitutes any 2 or 3 storey buildings or apartment blocks) since capitalist skyscrapers are "Nyet!".
Or anything that makes Saviour Of the Universe Putin have to interrupt his pre-breakfast bear-wrestling session, load a pistol and sharpen his knife then single handedly kill 200 men who threaten Glorious Russian Empire, before nipping down to the Nuclear Sub for a cold Stolichnaya.

But not destabilising a country to the point where the will strongly "disagree"?

(Stolichnaya = superb vodka)

**oldrider** · 7th March 2014, 12:16

Originally Posted by mashman

A few newsy folks were having a discussion on RT yesterday... a couple of them had the temerity to suggest that the US were funding the extremists. Did you see the Ukraine's presidents pad? Pretty special... hardly surprising he did a runner.

The US are a bunch of cheeky fuckers... they need a war to help their economy and as Syria doesn't look like they're playing ball and neither does Iran, maybe they'll have a pop at the auld enemy as they're running out of people to pick a fight with.

They don't need to pick wars, they are too busy running around doing Israel's dirty work for them!

The 50 stars on the USA flag should really be replaced by the star of David!

**mashman** · 7th March 2014, 12:19

Originally Posted by oldrider

They don't need to pick wars, they are too busy running around doing Israel's dirty work for them!

The 50 stars on the USA flag should really be replaced by the star of David!

There was some recent talk about that... and a very important question was raised: Would that star be Hi(gh)-Viz.

**mashman** · 9th March 2014, 19:46

Soooo there's gonna be a referendum as to whether Crimea will become a part of Russia. That'll fuck the USA up... I have to laugh at Obama and Cameron screaming for a peaceful solution. Sorry, but what isn't peaceful about people voting to be a part of 1 country or another? I wonder why the yanks and brits are using financial terrorism, I mean sanctions on Russia when it's Crimea that are deciding their own fate?

**oldrider** · 10th March 2014, 09:45

Originally Posted by mashman

Soooo there's gonna be a referendum as to whether Crimea will become a part of Russia. That'll fuck the USA up... I have to laugh at Obama and Cameron screaming for a peaceful solution. Sorry, but what isn't peaceful about people voting to be a part of 1 country or another? I wonder why the yanks and brits are using financial terrorism, I mean sanctions on Russia when it's Crimea that are deciding their own fate?

They could create their own referendum by voting with their feet and going back to Russia and leave Crimea where it belongs! FFS!

Next we will be having all the Australians that are over here (Russell Norman?) wanting to make us part of Australia! ...... Fuck that!

I would support the idea of him going home anytime soon!

**Voltaire** · 10th March 2014, 12:30

Didn't this happen before when that bloke with the tash brought the Czech bit back into the Germanic fold.
Mr Chamberlain asked him nicely to stop and the Americans built refrigerators and Packards.
The Euros can't turn up the heat as Mr Putin can turn off the gas.
The Chinese are very quiet.....

**oldrider** · 10th March 2014, 13:25

Originally Posted by Voltaire

Didn't this happen before when that bloke with the tash brought the Czech bit back into the Germanic fold.
Mr Chamberlain asked him nicely to stop and the Americans built refrigerators and Packards.
The Euros can't turn up the heat as Mr Putin can turn off the gas.
The Chinese are very quiet.....

True!

It's going the same way and I would say that each time it does this it just gets messier and messier and further wide spread with more human suffering!

**SPman** · 10th March 2014, 14:07

Originally Posted by Voltaire

The Chinese are very quiet.....

Whilst watching the US build more and more naval bases and facilities around the West Pacific rim.....

**Swoop** · 10th March 2014, 19:23

Originally Posted by Voltaire

The Chinese are very quiet.....

Originally Posted by SPman

Whilst watching the US build more and more naval bases and facilities around the West Pacific rim.....

Errr. You had both better get your glasses checked as the Chinese are VERY busy.
Claiming all of the waters down to the Philippines, around Japan, Vietnam and into Russia.

So much turmoil is happening and using their normal little-by-little approach. Be prepared to see them occupy an area and then "negotiate" a peace (while holding onto that piece of territory).
The US Marines and fleets are moving into the Pacific for a reason.

**george formby** · 10th March 2014, 19:32

Originally Posted by Swoop

Errr. You had both better get your glasses checked as the Chinese are VERY busy.
Claiming all of the waters down to the Philippines, around Japan, Vietnam and into Russia.

So much turmoil is happening and using their normal little-by-little approach. Be prepared to see them occupy an area and then "negotiate" a peace (while holding onto that piece of territory).
The US Marines and fleets are moving into the Pacific for a reason.

Ze Chinese are knocking out Aircraft Carriers & submarines like Kellogs make cornflakes. Ze Chinese like to see a return on their investments.

**Edbear** · 10th March 2014, 19:41

Putin doesn't want to lose Crimea. It was "donated" to the Ukraine by Kruschev in 1954, and Putin would really like to get it back under Russian control. Naturally, being rich in oil and gas, and populated mainly by Russians, he would rather not let the US get hold of it through their "support" of the new Ukraine Govt.

Interesting to see the differences in response to an overthrow of a foreign government by coup depending on vested interests... .

**awa355** · 10th March 2014, 21:28

Originally Posted by Edbear

Putin doesn't want to lose Crimea. It was "donated" to the Ukraine by Kruschev in 1954, and Putin would really like to get it back under Russian control. Naturally, being rich in oil and gas, and populated mainly by Russians, he would rather not let the US get hold of it through their "support" of the new Ukraine Govt.

Interesting to see the differences in response to an overthrow of a foreign government by coup depending on vested interests... .

The states would only intervene for the purpose of preserving human life and the rights of the people. Gas and oil wouldn't come into it ??

No??