The Ukraine

[oldrider]

that was an interesting read . . on the face of it looks like some rich americans . . of jewish persuation decided that the state of israel would be the way to go

i wonders why . . . . oil . money a deep port from which to ship oil from

just a thought

we are talking about rich greedy fkers who happen to be zionists

either way who ever they are they are making some appaling decitions

Zionists!

Underestimate them at your peril, they are some of the very best minds in the world and also the most persistent and focused people on earth!

That is what makes their various movements so diverse and also extremely interesting!

For such a small % of world population they as a people are almost totally involved in everything and losing is "not" part of their mental attitude or anatomy!

[pzkpfw]

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For such a small % of world population they as a people are almost totally involved in everything and losing is "not" part of their mental attitude or anatomy!

Indeed, there's a part of their anatomy they decided they can lose, so they cut it off their poor babies ...

[avgas]

...... shoot unarmed male persons of colour?

Fuck you didn't tell me they were going to shoot the Lorax

[avgas]

And we're not?

No - we have Durian on our tongues.

[oldrider]

Indeed, there's a part of their anatomy they decided they can lose, so they cut it off their poor babies ...

Well they cut mine off while they were at it! Mom sold it to a drover for a horse collar!

[oldrider]

The battle of the banks ... prelude to the physical action of WW3? :http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-1...2007?utm_sourc

Sounds like it's gonna be a really happy New Year doesn't it! .. ..

[SPman]

Another report from Kiev.......

Chronicles of the Collapse of Kiev
Kiev, Ukraine: Nov 27 - Dec 16
Kiev of course has not collapsed yet, and it may somehow make it through it’s recent troubles relatively unscathed. But from what I’m seeing, this outcome seems less and less likely as time goes by. Still, it’s hard to wish this kind of trouble on most people. But sadly, a small, hard core group of idiots can force a whole nation to sink under the waves into the Ocean of Oblivion.
Ukraine is a country that doesn't have much of a reason to exist. Its whole Raison d’être is defined as anti-Russia. Beyond that, they’ve rarely had a country; never been much of anything; never aspired to be something. Their only aspiration is to not be Russia. They're the anti-Russia. Just like matter and anti-matter cannot coexist; Russia and anti-Russia cannot coexist.

Skilled Professionals Are Leaving Ukraine.
Well, should we really be surprised? Exactly what do they have too look forward to by remaining in Ukraine? A sinking economy? Deteriorating infrastructure? Continuing dysfunctional government? A nice 2 meter deep hole with one’s name on it? A Jekyll and Hyde educational system that metastasizes every couple of years depending who is in charge? A government run by Nazis? You can have all of this and a whole lot more if you remain in Ukraine; but if this isn't exactly your cup of tea, you're a whole lot better off somewhere else. And the exodus has begun.

The Antonov aircraft plant ceases production.
Well, it's certainly not the first, nor will it be the last industrial operation to shut down. But it’s certainly one of the largest industrial operations in all of Kiev. And now it's no more, at least temporarily. Because it seems the Boeing Corporation may be interested in taking over this plant. But trying to take over of vibrant operation with a lot of orders is a lot more expensive than taking over a factory that is idle. But from the USA's point of view, this is what the whole Ukrainian revolution was for. Ruin the economy, force formally vibrant companies to shut down operations, and let foreign corporations buy the whole operation for kopeks. And by buying into a depressed economy such as Ukraine, you can pocess a workforce that costs 50% less than a it would have cost two years ago.

Ukraine gets its own "Ministry of Truth."
Yes, it's 1984. And Ukraine has a new ministry. Officially, it's known as the "Ministry Of Information Policy." But journalists here and elsewhere are already referring to it as the "Ministry of Truth." The term “Ministry of Truth” comes from George Orwell's novel 1984, where the Ministry of Truth had absolutely nothing to do with the truth. It was strictly the propaganda arm of the government. So it was in the novel; so it is in Ukraine today. Journalists are up in arms about this new ministry, but really, they have no reason to complain. This is just the formalization of what's been happening ever since the junta came to power. I guess propaganda is just fine up to that point where the government gets to give its approval or disapproval. It makes you look less independent.

Propaganda trucks on the prowl.
It's getting more than just a little bit annoying by now, but three, four, five times a day, propaganda trucks go driving by with big PA speakers on the roof, informing everybody of what they should be outraged about today. But who has time for outrage when survival is on the line. I did see the local propaganda truck parked at a nearby police station a couple of days ago, and the propaganda stopped. But the trucks are back with your daily dose of propagandist thought.

The American carpetbagger in the finance ministry gets to work.
Well, that didn't take long did it? Here is some of the shock and awe in store for the citizens of Ukraine. No more free education and health care for you. Compulsory education is reduced from 11 years to nine years. Most students and teachers will lose access to free transportation. Most students will lose access to stipends and for the few that continue to get that, they will not be adjusted for inflation. Teachers with additional titles and degrees will no longer get extra pay for that. And many experienced teachers will see their pay drop to the level of a new graduate. Retirement age will be increased by 10 years for women and by five years for men. Those who worked during Soviet times may see an additional pension decrease because they were "working for the occupier country" during Soviet times.
On the taxation side, you'll be asks to prove the source of your income for any purchase over approximately $800. And if the value of the hrynia continue to decrease, that $800 valuation will be even less. If you can't prove the origin of your income, it will automatically be assumed to be undeclared income and you will pay an additional 30% for that purchase. Saving diligently or having relatives outside the country sending you funds will not be sufficient reasons to avoid the tax.
This is of course is just scratching the surface of life in the new Ukraine.
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[Brian d marge]

wealth transfer from antinov to a us of a company now theres a suprise
they will be getting student loans soon

[oldrider]

Russia was making overtures to Cuba and now suddenly the USA is interested in Cuba's welfare? - Well fuck me - what a coincidence!

[scrivy]

Russia was making overtures to Cuba and now suddenly the USA is interested in Cuba's welfare? - Well fuck me - what a coincidence!

Didnt see that coming......

[oldrider]

Was this the incentive that prompted Obama to seek new relations with Cuba? http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...relations-sour ..

More here: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-1...-you-lose.html

[Swoop]

I note a squadron of MiG 31's has been moved up to the border with Ukraine.
Reconnaissance duties to peek across the border...


The Antonov aircraft plant ceases production.
...But trying to take over of vibrant operation with a lot of orders ...
What propaganda is this?
Russia wants to place orders for some of the largest aircraft built there, to upgrade the ancient transport fleet it is operating. That isn't going to happen currently!

Putin-boy has made a boo-boo.

[Brian d marge]

there has been a lot of american armoured car im not versed on what is what
but on the train heading that way

[oldrider]

Obama on Putin and Ukraine: http://www.theguardian.com/world/vid...h-russia-video

Putin on Ukraine: http://www.theguardian.com/world/vid...eningrad-video

Putin doesn't ever sound like the warmonger that Obama says he is .. so why don't the Yanks just stay home and sort out their own problems?

[SPman]

A good article by Dennis Kucinich (former US Congressman), about how 3 people voted in the next round of Russia sanctions when there was no one else there.......

Under the guise of democratizing, the West stripped Ukraine of its sovereignty with a U.S.-backed coup, employed it as a foil to advance NATO to the Russian border and reignited the Cold War, complete with another nuclear showdown.
The people of Ukraine will be less free, as their country becomes a “military state,” goes into hock to international banks, faces structural readjustments, privatization of its public assets, decline of social services, higher prices and an even more severe decline in its standard of living.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/12/n...aroo-congress/