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The United States would only be interested in "whats in it for Israel?" only then followed by whats in it for USA!Originally Posted by awa355
The states would only intervene for the purpose of preserving human life and the rights of the people. Gas and oil wouldn't come into it ??
No??
Check their track record on that here: http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-83-page-...ntrols-USA.pdf ... it's not a secret!Then check that against real life history!
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Quite a relevant point but a little off-track.
Their carrier was bought from Russia and had a lot of work done to her. Upgraded systems and electronics for a start, since the Russians have never improved their carriers so they were 1990's technology.
Getting a CBG up to speed will be their challenge, since they are new to the game (well, sort of since their crews have been exchanging with the Brazilian carrier).
Their subs...
None of their boomers have sortied out for a proper cruise. "Hangar queens" could describe them. Their diesel boats are much the same. Coastal water sub fleet rather than a true blue waters force.
They have a very nice Army though. I bet Russia still doesn't like having to defend a border with China...
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Why there probably won't be a war - Chris Hedges has a good take on it.....
Bulgakov, Mann and Roth understood that here is no real political ideology among decayed ruling elites. They knew that political debate and ideological constructs for these elites is absurdist theater, a species of entertainment for the masses. They warned that once societies enter terminal decay, in the end it is the blunt forces of censorship, relentless propaganda, coercion, fear and finally terror that keep a subdued population in check. Those who hold power in such systems are thieves who run a vast kleptocracy.
The rise of criminal elites is global. Vladimir Putin is a megalomaniac and a thug who is filling his personal coffers while he is the leader of Russia, and Barack Obama, who has more polish and sophistication, will fill his own pockets, as did the Clintons, with tens of millions of dollars as soon as he leaves office. The banks and corporations for which Obama works are as criminal and corrupt as the Central Bank of Russia, which calculates that perhaps two-thirds of the $56 billion that left Russia in 2012 might have been from money laundering, drug trafficking, tax fraud or kickbacks. The circular system of patronage and crime that exists worldwide varies from region to region only by degrees and style.
The Western political and financial elites, Putin knows, will not touch him. He and they are in the same decadent oligarchic class. They hold the same values. Europe depends on Russia for 40 percent of its natural gas, most of which passes through Ukraine. European bankers and corporations have no intention of jeopardizing that flow, or any current or potential trade deals. Corporate profit is the driving engine of foreign policy. Our elites do not care about human rights or civil liberties, not to mention the illegality of pre-emptive war, any more than Putin.
Ask the people of Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen or Somalia how much moral authority the United States has to denounce the violation of the territorial integrity of a sovereign state. Ask those in our black sites and offshore penal colonies how much moral authority we have to denounce arbitrary detention and torture. Ask the 1.3 million people who lost their extended unemployment benefits in December or those who saw food stamp cutbacks reduce their spending by $90 a month how much moral authority there is left in our corporate state.
Our elites have established the most efficient system of mass surveillance in history. They have abolished most of our civil liberties. They have trashed our economy for their own personal gain. They have looted state treasuries and thrown working men and women aside. Satan is again holding a great ball. You are not invited. I am not invited. Only the gangsters will be there. Putin will be an honored guest. So will Obama.
- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.
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Aio ki te Aorangi
They're banking on people being stupid, not because they're stupid but because they either don't care or believe that they can do fuck all about it. At least those who don't care have a valid excuse.
I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!
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Naaa .. people are stupid - 50% of the population is below average intelligence !!!
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
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Average intelligence is like common sense ... one must always ask .... who's version are we using?
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Have been posting stuff in "stupid world " but can add some stuff here
Have a look at;
The All-Ukrainian Union "Svoboda" (Ukrainian: Всеукраїнське обєднання «Свобода», Vseukrayinske obyednannia "Svoboda"), translated as Freedom, is a Ukrainian nationalist political party,[2] and currently one of the five major parties of the country.[9] Five members of the party hold positions in Ukraine's government.
and
a prominent leader from the Right Sektor, Alexander Muzychko, brandishing an Ak-47 in parliament letting them know who is in charge. This is the same Alexander Muzychko who publicly vowed to fight "against Jews communists, and Russian scum" for as long as he lives.
Now look for this guy : Stanford University's Larry Diamond, I wonder what he does.........
http://democracy.stanford.edu/
snip:Larry Diamond is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies, where he also directs the Center for Democracy, Development, and the Rule of Law. He is the founding co-editor of the Journal of Democracy and also serves as Senior Consultant (and previously was co-director) at the International Forum for Democratic Studies of the National Endowment for Democracy. During 20023, he served as a consultant to the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) and was a contributing author of its report Foreign Aid in the National Interest. He has also advised and lectured to the World Bank, the United Nations, the State Department, and other governmental and nongovernmental agencies dealing with governance and development. His latest book, The Spirit of Democracy: The Struggle to Build Free Societies Throughout the World (Times Books, 2008), explores the sources of global democratic progress and stress and the prospects for future democratic expansion.
Oh oh and what about those pipe lines ..........
Im off to me Chinese lessons da Komrad Da !
Ho lee fook, Aka Da comrade , Citizen Defarge formally known as Stephen
oh and this was a classic !!!! Well done Victoria Numan ,
"Look, Madame, where we live, look how we live ... look at the life we have...The Republic has forgotten us."
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Needs to happen in Sheepy-ville
Stephen
"Look, Madame, where we live, look how we live ... look at the life we have...The Republic has forgotten us."
KB's Chief Cats
can i vote him for the boss of nz?
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Don Key would wet himself
Stephen
"Look, Madame, where we live, look how we live ... look at the life we have...The Republic has forgotten us."
Aio ki te Aorangi
Nah, that's just shit teachers and a lack of wanting to live up to their potential. Intelligence is never a guarantee of greatness innit.
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Does anyone else see the similarity between Hitler and Putin here?
Where Hitler used armed force, Putin is following Gandi's non agressive approach, enhanced nationalism and of course someone to blame!
Other than that the result looks like it will go exactly the same as Hitlers activities before WW2! Where will this all end up?
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It has been said
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"Look, Madame, where we live, look how we live ... look at the life we have...The Republic has forgotten us."
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A brief history of Crimea...
The history of Crimea’s integration with Ukraine is all but non-existent in history. In the mid-1400s, Crimea was a Tartar state founded by a descendant of Genghis Khan. In 1478, Crimea became a tributary of the Ottoman Empire until 1774, when it became an independent state, essentially liberated by Russia (until Russia annexed it in 1783). Crimea remained part of Russia until 1917, when it declared its independence again (which lasted about a year before it was occupied by the Soviet Union, then the Germans, then the Soviet Union again). In 1921, Crimea was granted “autonomy,” which was interrupted by the German occupation (1941-1943), then stripped by the Soviet Union in 1945. Still part of the Soviet Union in 1954, Crimea was organizationally transferred to Ukraine, also part of the Soviet Union. In 1991, Crimea became the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, within the Soviet Union, followed by a power struggle with the Kiev government in the aftermath of the Soviet Union’s break-up. In early 1992, the Crimean Parliament proclaimed its independence as the Republic of Crimea and adopted its first constitution (which it amended the same day to say Crimea was part of Ukraine); within weeks, Crimea dropped its proclamation of self-government in an apparent trade-off for greater autonomy from Kiev, but the dispute over the status of Crimea continued to feed political turmoil until Ukraine executed a constitutional coup. On March 17, 1995, the Kiev government scrapped the Crimean constitution, sacked the Crimean president and eventually established, with obvious irony, the “Autonomous Republic of Crimea” – which still had periodic anti-Kiev eruptions and now (as of March 16) has voted to join the Russian Federation.
Contrary to many media reports that the Crimean referendum offered no real choice, the actual ballot had two rather different and nuanced choices:
Stripped bare, the mainstream media typically say the referendum offers “no choice” because the media don’t like the actual choice offered: independence or join Russia. What the media don’t say is that they want Crimea to have a choice to remain under the thumb of Kiev with no greater “autonomy.” Of course that’s intellectually dishonest,but it does illuminate the absurdity of arguing about Ukraine’s “territorial integrity,” which has included Crimea for about twenty of the past 600 years.
1. “Do you support rejoining Crimea with Russia as a subject of the Russian Federation?”
2. “Do you support restoration of the 1992 Constitution of the Republic of Crimea and Crimea's status as a part of Ukraine?”
Most of that time Crimea seems to have been seeking independence from large countries that refused to leave it alone
- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.
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