The Ukraine

[Hinny]

With all due respect Robbie Burns the poet got it right when he said: "Would that God the gift give us, to see ourselves as others see us".

And Michael Jackson's song: "The man in the mirror"! ... What brand of "stool" do you aspire to represent?

I certainly do not want to be any kind of stool.
As long as my stools come out my arse and not my mouth I am happy.

[Hinny]

As much as you are a Kremlin...

I can see no moral profit from supporting terrorists and the USA defence dept. is by far the largest and most active terrorist organisation on the planet.
Their 'Commander in Chief' can therefore be regarded as the world's no 1 enemy.
Reportedly he signs orders for drone strikes around the world every day... Every day he kills people. To use an American catchcry .."He's killing his own people".
Does that sort of behaviour deserve your support?
It is the rhetoric used to drum up support of invasions to oust leaders of countries they want under their control.

[oldrider]

I certainly do not want to be any kind of stool.
As long as my stools come out my arse and not my mouth I am happy.

Hmmmm, good thing we cleared that up then!

[oneblackflag]

I can see no moral profit from supporting terrorists and the USA defence dept. is by far the largest and most active terrorist organisation on the planet.
Their 'Commander in Chief' can therefore be regarded as the world's no 1 enemy.
Reportedly he signs orders for drone strikes around the world every day... Every day he kills people. To use an American catchcry .."He's killing his own people".
Does that sort of behaviour deserve your support?
It is the rhetoric used to drum up support of invasions to oust leaders of countries they want under their control.

Im all for drone strikes. Yes it deserves my support.

[Hinny]

Im all for drone strikes. Yes it deserves my support.

Well you must be a cunt then.

[oneblackflag]

Well you must be a cunt then.

[oldrider]

Well you must be a cunt then.

Cunts? ... These are just some of my favourite things!

[R650R]

Obama is so not the man he and the media portrayed him as before his election.
What forces a man to so comprehensively renege on his values and ideals.
Obama came in as the great peacemaker. Ended up as bad as any of them.

Yep, I think it goes something like this:

[oldrider]

Yep, I think it goes something like this:

True! .. Can't disagree with the sentiment of that clip except for the "who"!

The "who" are the same people that declare: "Give us control of the finances of the world, we care not who makes the laws"!

Anyone with enough arrogance to delare that and having enough arrogance and wherewithal to make it happen, "will" make it happen and they do!

International banking and world problems are symbiotic!

[george formby]

Any of you typists watch that youtube clip I posted? It appears from the info in the vid that the Neocons are alive, well & very busy.

[oldrider]

Any of you typists watch that youtube clip I posted? It appears from the info in the vid that the Neocons are alive, well & very busy.

Yes ... had already seen it before you posted it, among all the others floating around the net ... sorting the crap/fact is an industry all of it's own!

[george formby]

Yes ... had already seen it before you posted it, among all the others floating around the net ... sorting the crap/fact is an industry all of it's own!

Concur. Cheers. The more we look the better informed.

Meh. Yet another part of the world that's been squabbling for millennia.

I'm defo getting very leary of A'merckan motives though. Recent history is not good to them.

[oldrider]

Concur. Cheers. The more we look the better informed.

Meh. Yet another part of the world that's been squabbling for millennia.

I'm defo getting very leary of A'merckan motives though. Recent history is not good to them.

True! ... But are American interests really those of the American people or are they those of the Israeli lobbyists in America?

Does America place Israeli interests before those of Americans?

These guys were asking these questions back in 2006 : http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-83-page-...ntrols-USA.pdf

Has anything changed since then to suggest that they were wrong, let history speak for it's self, after all we have been witness to these events in our own time!

You can make your own judgement based on facts that you have been witness to.

Read their report and consider why you feel so uneasy about recent American history! Israel and America? ... Strange but "extremely" commited bedfellows!

[avgas]

If Crimea wanted to split from Ukraine it should of been done through the Ukraine and UN so there was a fair ballot; not some quasi annexation then referendum.

So a massive protest to remove the current Ukraine govt ends up with US appointed leader, the US is the current punch of the UN........and you think that Crimea should have to perform their ballot to split FROM THE UKRAINE! through the UN (aka USA in tights) and Ukraine (the people they want to ditch).

Good logic. It's like a South American nation letting the cartels run the election.

[awa355]

So much for western sanctions.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news...ectid=11245684