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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Do we really live any different these days:
    Random military style checkpoints in urban areas to check wof/rego
    Must carry papers at all times or be detained and fined (drivers license)
    Cannot stage a protest in city without a permit from the authorities
    Restricted weapons ownership aka gun license
    Unable to alter housing without permit or consent and then with restrictions
    Plenty of propaganda shows promoting military and police on TV (how many cops shows do we need, at least they are entertaining )
    Leaders exempt from law (aka aunty Helens dash to rugby)
    If you want to see a militarized police force , have a look at what uncle same has been up to !

    hollow points ........ for the police !!!

    Go figure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    If you want to see a militarized police force , have a look at what uncle same has been up to !

    hollow points ........ for the police !!!

    Go figure

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    Well they do have highly armed citizens to 'protect'.
    Sticking to the back roads

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    From Mike Whitney...

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    Scholz said the Washington’s objective was “to deny Ukraine a role as a bridge between Eurasian Union and European Union….They want to bring Ukraine under the NATO control” and sabotage the prospects for “a common economic zone from Lisbon to Vladivostok.”

    Bingo. That’s US policy in a nutshell. It has nothing to do with democracy, sovereignty, or human rights. It’s about money and power. Who are the big players going to be in the world’s biggest growth center, that’s all that matters. Unfortunately for Obama and Co., the US has fallen behind Russia in acquiring the essential resources and pipeline infrastructure to succeed in such a competition. They’ve been beaten by Putin and Gazprom at every turn. While Putin has strengthened diplomatic and economic relations, expanded vital pipeline corridors and transit lines, and hurtled the many obstacles laid out for him by American-stooges in the EC; the US has dragged itself from one quagmire to the next laying entire countries to waste while achieving none of its economic objectives.

    So now the US has jettisoned its business strategy altogether and moved on to Plan B, regime change. Washington couldn’t beat Putin in a fair fight, so now they’ve taken off the gloves....Putin’s main objective is to make money. In contrast, the US wants to dominate the Eurasian landmass, break Russia up into smaller, non-threatening units, and control China’s growth. That’s the basic gameplan. Also, the US does not want any competitors......

    Washington does not want a peaceful solution. Washington wants a confrontation. Washington wants to draw Moscow into a long-term conflict in Ukraine that will recreate Afghanistan in the 1990s. That’s the goal, to lure Putin into a military quagmire that will discredit him in the eyes of the world, isolate Russia from its allies, put strains on new alliances, undermine the Russian economy, pit Russian troops against US-backed armed mercenaries and Special Ops, destroy Russian relations with business partners in the EU, and create a justification for NATO intervention followed by the deployment of nuclear weapons on Ukrainian territory. That’s the gameplan...........

    On Sunday, Ukrainian imposter-President Oleksandr Turchynov announced a plan to launch a “large-scale anti-terrorist operation” in Donetsk and Lugansk to avoid a “repeat the Crimean scenario in Ukraine’s east.” The operation will involve “military forces, anti-terrorist forces and law enforcement of Ukraine” and is scheduled to begin at 9 AM yesterday morning.

    It’s clear, that Turchynov is trying to lure Russia into a fight, just as it’s clear that the president would not have approved the crackdown without a green light from Washington.

    Putin will not allow Russian-speaking people to be killed in Ukraine, that’s the red line the junta government must not cross if they want to avoid a confrontation with Russia. Unfortunately, Washington wants Russia to invade so it can put its “proxy war” plan into motion.
    Whitney is pretty much on the mark in European affairs......looks like it could still all turn to custard....

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/04/15/is-putin-being-lured-into-a-trap/

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/04/...and-realities/
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    ......looks like it could still all turn to custard....
    Mmmm.... I like custard.... - just not 'that' type...
    Is it still beastiality if ya fuck a frozen chicken??

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneblackflag View Post
    No one can be perfect but I'd far rather be living under Western rule than say the likes of Russia or China.
    Lol!! Yip the US is far better......

    Obama has:
    Used Executive Privilege in regards to Fast & Furious gun running scandal. When Government misconduct is the concern Executive privilege is negated.

    23 Executive Orders on gun control - infringement of the 2nd Amendment

    2 Executive actions mandating private health information on patients be turned over to NICS - Violation of HIPPA law.

    Executive Order bypassing Congress on immigration – Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress; Article II Section 3

    Unilaterally issued new exemptions to immigration restrictions law that bars certain asylum-seekers and refugees who provided “limited material support” to t errorists. – Article 1 Section 1

    Issued directive instructing ICE to NOT enforce immigration laws in certain cases. Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress; “he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,” Article II Section 3

    Expanded executive action for amnesty to illegal immigrant relatives of DREAM Act beneficiaries. Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress; “he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,” Article II Section 3

    Executive action directing DHS that almost all immigration offenses were unenforceable absent a separate criminal conviction. Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress; “he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,” Article II Section 3

    Information memorandum telling states that they can waive the work requirement for welfare recipients, thereby altering the 1996 welfare reform law. - Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress

    NDAA – Section 1021. Due process Rights negated. Violation of 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Amendments.

    Executive Order 13603 NDRP – Government can seize anything

    Executive Order 13524 – Gives INTERPOL jurisdiction on American soil beyond law enforcement agencies, including the FBI.

    Executive Order 13636 Infrastructure Cybersecurity – Bypassing Congress Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress

    Attempt to tax political contributions – 1st Amendment

    DOMA Law – Obama directed DOJ to ignore the Constitution and separation of powers and not enforce the law. ” he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,” Article II Section 3
    Dodd-Frank – Due process and separation of powers. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau writing and interpreting law. Article. I. Section. 1

    Drone strikes on American Citizens – 5th Amendment Due process Rights negated

    Bypassed Congress and gave EPA power to advance Cap-n-Trade

    Attempt for Graphic tobacco warnings (under appeal) – 1st Amendment

    Four Exec. appointments – Senate was NOT in recess (Court has ruled unconstitutional yet the appointees still remain)

    Appointing agency czars without the “advice and consent of the Senate.” Violation of Article II, Section 2

    Obama took Chairmanship of UN Security Council – Violation of Section 9.

    ACA (Obamacare) mandate – SCOTUS rewrote legislation and made it a tax because there is no Constitutional authority for Congress to force Americans to engage in commerce. SCOTUS has no authority to Legislate or lay taxes. Article I Section 1 & 8.

    Contraceptive, abortifacients mandate violation of First Ammendment

    Healthcare waivers – No president has dispensing powers

    Refuses to acknowledge state’s 10th Amendment rights to nullify Obamacare

    Going after states (AZ lawsuit) for upholding Federal law (immigration) -10th Amendment.

    Chrysler Bailout -TARP - violated creditors rights and bankruptcy law, as well as Takings and Due Process Clauses – 5th Amendment (G.W. Bush also illegally used TARP funds for bailouts)

    The Independent Payment Advisory Board (appointees by the president). Any decisions by IPAB will instantly become law starting in 2014 – Separation of Powers, Article 1 Section 1.

    Congress did not approve Obama’s war in Libya. Article I, Section 8, First illegal war U.S. has engaged in. Impeachable under Article II, Section 4; War Powers Act – Article II Section 3.

    Obama falsely claims UN can usurp Congressional war powers.

    Obama has acted outside the constitutional power given him – this in itself is unconstitutional.

    With the approval of Obama, the NSA and the FBI are tapping directly into the servers of 9 internet companies to gain access to emails, video/audio, photos, documents, etc. This program is code named PRISM. NSA also collecting data on all phone calls in U.S. – Violation of 4th Amendment.

    Plans to sign U.N. Firearms treaty – 2nd Amendment.

    The Senate/Obama immigration bill (approved by both) raises revenue – Section 7. All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives

    Obama altered law – (A president has no authority to alter law) Delayed upholding the Employer Mandate Law (ACA) until 2015 – Individual Mandate will be enforced. A President does not have that authority – Article. I. Section. 1. All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States; The president “shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed” -Article II, Section 3; Equal Protection Clause -14th Amendment.

    Obama altered law - ACA Medicare cuts delayed until 2015. Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3.

    Obama altered law – Enforcement of eligibility requirements for ACA delayed until 2015. Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3.

    Obama wavered ACA Income Verification Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3.

    Obama altered law – Delayed ACA caps on out of pocket expenses until 2015. (when implemented premiums will skyrocket) Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3.

    Obama ignored judicial order to fulfill legal obligation regarding Yucca Mountain waste. Article II, Section 3

    Waived Federal provision that prevents U.S. From arming terrorist groups – Article I. Section 1; Impeachable under Article III, Section 3.

    Directed State Department HS to ignore law barring entry to U.S. those giving political or charitable aid to known terrorist groups. Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3.

    Obama shelves part of the ACA Law for Insurers, extending the life of non-qualifying (according to ACA) plans until Jan. 1, 2015. Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3. Violation of the Take Care Clause, Separation of Powers.

    Obama waved ACA individual mandate for those that lost their insurance. Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3. Violation of the Take Care Clause, Separation of Powers.

    Obama alters ACA law and exempts companies employing between 50-100 full-time workers from business mandate until 2016. Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3.

    In total, Obama has unilaterally altered ACA 21 times. Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3. Violation of the Take Care Clause, Separation of Powers.
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    I can't wait to visit there...... The US citizens are losing all of their rights..... Thinks I'd rather be in Russia....
    Is it still beastiality if ya fuck a frozen chicken??

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrivy View Post
    Lol!! Yip the US is far better......

    Obama has:
    Used Executive Privilege in regards to Fast & Furious gun running scandal. When Government misconduct is the concern Executive privilege is negated.

    23 Executive Orders on gun control - infringement of the 2nd Amendment

    2 Executive actions mandating private health information on patients be turned over to NICS - Violation of HIPPA law.

    Executive Order bypassing Congress on immigration – Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress; Article II Section 3

    Unilaterally issued new exemptions to immigration restrictions law that bars certain asylum-seekers and refugees who provided “limited material support” to t errorists. – Article 1 Section 1

    Issued directive instructing ICE to NOT enforce immigration laws in certain cases. Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress; “he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,” Article II Section 3

    Expanded executive action for amnesty to illegal immigrant relatives of DREAM Act beneficiaries. Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress; “he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,” Article II Section 3

    Executive action directing DHS that almost all immigration offenses were unenforceable absent a separate criminal conviction. Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress; “he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,” Article II Section 3

    Information memorandum telling states that they can waive the work requirement for welfare recipients, thereby altering the 1996 welfare reform law. - Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress

    NDAA – Section 1021. Due process Rights negated. Violation of 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Amendments.

    Executive Order 13603 NDRP – Government can seize anything

    Executive Order 13524 – Gives INTERPOL jurisdiction on American soil beyond law enforcement agencies, including the FBI.

    Executive Order 13636 Infrastructure Cybersecurity – Bypassing Congress Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress

    Attempt to tax political contributions – 1st Amendment

    DOMA Law – Obama directed DOJ to ignore the Constitution and separation of powers and not enforce the law. ” he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,” Article II Section 3
    Dodd-Frank – Due process and separation of powers. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau writing and interpreting law. Article. I. Section. 1

    Drone strikes on American Citizens – 5th Amendment Due process Rights negated

    Bypassed Congress and gave EPA power to advance Cap-n-Trade

    Attempt for Graphic tobacco warnings (under appeal) – 1st Amendment

    Four Exec. appointments – Senate was NOT in recess (Court has ruled unconstitutional yet the appointees still remain)

    Appointing agency czars without the “advice and consent of the Senate.” Violation of Article II, Section 2

    Obama took Chairmanship of UN Security Council – Violation of Section 9.

    ACA (Obamacare) mandate – SCOTUS rewrote legislation and made it a tax because there is no Constitutional authority for Congress to force Americans to engage in commerce. SCOTUS has no authority to Legislate or lay taxes. Article I Section 1 & 8.

    Contraceptive, abortifacients mandate violation of First Ammendment

    Healthcare waivers – No president has dispensing powers

    Refuses to acknowledge state’s 10th Amendment rights to nullify Obamacare

    Going after states (AZ lawsuit) for upholding Federal law (immigration) -10th Amendment.

    Chrysler Bailout -TARP - violated creditors rights and bankruptcy law, as well as Takings and Due Process Clauses – 5th Amendment (G.W. Bush also illegally used TARP funds for bailouts)

    The Independent Payment Advisory Board (appointees by the president). Any decisions by IPAB will instantly become law starting in 2014 – Separation of Powers, Article 1 Section 1.

    Congress did not approve Obama’s war in Libya. Article I, Section 8, First illegal war U.S. has engaged in. Impeachable under Article II, Section 4; War Powers Act – Article II Section 3.

    Obama falsely claims UN can usurp Congressional war powers.

    Obama has acted outside the constitutional power given him – this in itself is unconstitutional.

    With the approval of Obama, the NSA and the FBI are tapping directly into the servers of 9 internet companies to gain access to emails, video/audio, photos, documents, etc. This program is code named PRISM. NSA also collecting data on all phone calls in U.S. – Violation of 4th Amendment.

    Plans to sign U.N. Firearms treaty – 2nd Amendment.

    The Senate/Obama immigration bill (approved by both) raises revenue – Section 7. All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives

    Obama altered law – (A president has no authority to alter law) Delayed upholding the Employer Mandate Law (ACA) until 2015 – Individual Mandate will be enforced. A President does not have that authority – Article. I. Section. 1. All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States; The president “shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed” -Article II, Section 3; Equal Protection Clause -14th Amendment.

    Obama altered law - ACA Medicare cuts delayed until 2015. Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3.

    Obama altered law – Enforcement of eligibility requirements for ACA delayed until 2015. Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3.

    Obama wavered ACA Income Verification Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3.

    Obama altered law – Delayed ACA caps on out of pocket expenses until 2015. (when implemented premiums will skyrocket) Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3.

    Obama ignored judicial order to fulfill legal obligation regarding Yucca Mountain waste. Article II, Section 3

    Waived Federal provision that prevents U.S. From arming terrorist groups – Article I. Section 1; Impeachable under Article III, Section 3.

    Directed State Department HS to ignore law barring entry to U.S. those giving political or charitable aid to known terrorist groups. Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3.

    Obama shelves part of the ACA Law for Insurers, extending the life of non-qualifying (according to ACA) plans until Jan. 1, 2015. Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3. Violation of the Take Care Clause, Separation of Powers.

    Obama waved ACA individual mandate for those that lost their insurance. Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3. Violation of the Take Care Clause, Separation of Powers.

    Obama alters ACA law and exempts companies employing between 50-100 full-time workers from business mandate until 2016. Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3.

    In total, Obama has unilaterally altered ACA 21 times. Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3. Violation of the Take Care Clause, Separation of Powers.
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    I can't wait to visit there...... The US citizens are losing all of their rights..... Thinks I'd rather be in Russia....
    Lucky he's gone soon... Though whether there's political will to reverse anything I don't know.... The people were warned about Obama.
    Sticking to the back roads

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneblackflag View Post
    Lucky he's gone soon... Though whether there's political will to reverse anything I don't know.... The people were warned about Obama.
    He may be going soonish, but his puppetmasters will be staying....
    The next goon will be just as bad.... cause they're just puppets afterall....
    Is it still beastiality if ya fuck a frozen chicken??

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrivy View Post
    He may be going soonish, but his puppetmasters will be staying....
    The next goon will be just as bad.... cause they're just puppets afterall....
    Yes we can ........................ of course no he didn't! ...... The most powerfull man in the world? Phfftt Yeah right!

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    Ah. So this is whats going on. Apparently.

    Manopausal.

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    Dont forget the Ukraine has Russias only warm water port

    Stephen

    How many day until I get my TV

    Im flying to NZ right now to go window shopping ....any suggestions ?
    "Look, Madame, where we live, look how we live ... look at the life we have...The Republic has forgotten us."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    Dont forget the Ukraine has Russias only warm water port

    Stephen

    How many day until I get my TV

    Im flying to NZ right now to go window shopping ....any suggestions ?
    LG are bringing out an 77" curved screed OLED soon. $35'000 approx.
    Manopausal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by george formby View Post
    LG are bringing out an 77" curved screed OLED soon. $35'000 approx.
    I aint payiny for it
    Im waiting till shtf then picking up myself


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    I aint payiny for it
    Im waiting till shtf then picking up myself


    Stephen

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    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Are you going to queue overnight?
    Night would be better me thinks

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