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    Immigration - Why do we do it?

    Take a look for yourself.

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    Nicely put together and presented... great find.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeey01 View Post
    Take a look for yourself.
    Done. Who's next?
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    He didn't look Native American to me.
    Immigration was obviously OK for him or his ancestors but lets not let anyone else in to rain on our parade. We are AMERICANS god damn it!

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    The solution is clearly to eat more pink gumballs.

    No answer to the OP question though: Immigration - Why do we do it? it appears to presume that only poor people migrate from <$2 a day to untold riches in the US.

    What about people from richer countries migrating to poorer countries to get more bang for their buck, like Thailand, Philippines, Fiji, New Zealand
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    I thought Helens UN bunch tells each country how many immigrants that country HAS to take, I could be wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogboy900 View Post
    He didn't look Native American to me.
    Immigration was obviously OK for him or his ancestors but lets not let anyone else in to rain on our parade. We are AMERICANS god damn it!
    Even the "native" americans came from Africa by way of Europe.

    I don't think he's against immigration per se. I think what he's saying is that it won't help the world's poor and to great an influx in too short a time may well hurt the infrastructure that's been set up so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    Even the "native" americans came from Africa by way of Europe.

    I don't think he's against immigration per se. I think what he's saying is that it won't help the world's poor and to great an influx in too short a time may well hurt the infrastructure that's been set up so far.
    no, he isn't.
    yes, he is.


    Must admit, that clip is an eye-opener ... never thought about it like that before.

    All those people, less than $2 a day .... although, in the countries where they live, that $2 a day must buy a heck of a lot more than it does here (witness the annual increase of pink gumballs... not possible if what they earn isn't at least subsistance - just saying).
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    The real problem is that are far far too many humans on this planet and increasing exponentially. We are currently on the brink of running out of many resources as this film explains exquisitely so improving the living standards of the (4+?) billions of sub $2/day peoples will not solve the problem.

    Where to from here? It's got me beat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogboy900 View Post
    He didn't look Native American to me.
    Immigration was obviously OK for him or his ancestors but lets not let anyone else in to rain on our parade. We are AMERICANS god damn it!
    He said immigration not invasion and eradication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naki Rat View Post
    The real problem is that are far far too many humans on this planet and increasing exponentially. We are currently on the brink of running out of many resources as this film explains exquisitely so improving the living standards of the (4+?) billions of sub $2/day peoples will not solve the problem.

    Where to from here? It's got me beat!
    And that there is all there is to know about the problem.

    How about a world war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
    And that there is all there is to know about the problem.

    How about a world war.
    It's got nothing to do with how we're using the resources right? I'm not saying overpopulation isn't an issue, but I will say that even if you kill the 3/4 billion who are in need, you're still going to have rampant consumerism... likely even more so as we'll believe that we will have solved our resource usage issues.

    There is a fuckload more to know about the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    There is a fuckload more to know about the problem.

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    It's a bullshit, contrived argument from a conservative isolationist.

    There is NOTHING worse in the minds of those who cling to a capitalist system than an upwardly mobile untouchable class. The fact that these people might have access to modern communication networks and clean water gives the 1%ers the shits.

    The fact remains: To improve the quality of life to 3/5ths of the world's population means the end of rampant consumerism and the end of the import/export trade in junk food and junk shit that no one needs. Locally made and consumed product and global knowledge exchanges will make a bigger dent in poverty stats than stopping emigration from shitholes and intentionally killing billions of people.
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    He has a point in that they must address poverty in their own country. But on the other side, immigration based on societal worth seems like it fits in well with a capitalistic approach; ie, that your merits and hardworking can bring you wealth. And there's benefits to allowing immigration to the migrant country, such as wealth being sent back home, upskilled people returning back home to make a difference, and just the incentive to distinguish oneself enough to make it out of the poor country.

    Still, with that much candy on hand, bet he could get a youthful 'voluntary' workforce sorted really easily...
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    That's not what he argued. He argued that letting those with the skills and desire to migrate elsewhere go, damages the country of origin.
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