Lower alcohol limit for motorcyclists?

**Kiwi675** · 6th March 2014, 11:48

Thoughts?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/news...-motorcyclists

**BuzzardNZ** · 6th March 2014, 12:19

It fucking sucks.

**SMOKEU** · 6th March 2014, 12:29

It's just dumb to consider a different limit for riders vs cagers.

What's even more fucking retarded is the fact that the article mentions breath alcohol interlock devices for vehicles. I bet every hardcore recidivist EBA offender is just going to buy some deregistered wreck and drive that around to their local pub instead if their main vehicle has such a device fitted to it.

**willytheekid** · 6th March 2014, 12:35

This....is gonna get interesting!

**haydes55** · 6th March 2014, 12:38

It's shit like this that make me want to take off my number plate and give up pulling over.

I like a reader comment about drivers having radios, sat nav, phones, passengers etc. Distracting them from keeping their eyes on the road. Meanwhile motorcyclists look at their speedo or the road. So shouldn't drivers have a lower limit than riders?

In my opinion, incapable of safely operating any vehicle, means you can't safely operate any vehicle. Drunk is drunk no matter whether you ride it drive.

Most riders also have a car, does that mean if people have had a few beers they will drive instead of ride. So intoxicated people now have a heavier weapon?

Would intoxicated riders be less likely to stop for police? Fuck yes, 50demerits can fuck right off. I've got a few demerits, If I had a couple of beers the night before, I wouldn't want to risk being over the limit. I'd lose my license. I wouldn't stop.

**paturoa** · 6th March 2014, 12:53

So what % of bike accidents are alcohol related? How does this compare to non-motorcycles?

What would be really interesting is: in how many bins, does the rider have a measure between 251 and 400? Suspect the answer is fuck all, so reducing the limit from 400 to 251 would do what?

Interesting that none of these types of stats are mentioned. Hopefully they are in the submission. Are the submissions online anywhere?

**James Deuce** · 6th March 2014, 13:06

Fuck 'em. ACC levies based on fiddled data and bigotry and now this, based on supposition and bigotry.

Fuck 'em.

I don't drink and ride, but I'm not going to tell you what to do and neither can that small-minded, pencil-dicked, Titan Arum smelling, feeble-minded, dribbling, alzheimic, pasty, cabbage-brained, faeces-stained, vegan cyclist either.

Fuck 'em.

Fuck doing charity runs, fuck being polite, fuck helping old ladies, fuck taking my helmet off in petrol stations, fuck being civic minded and sticking to standard pipes.

Fuck. Them. All.

**Robbo** · 6th March 2014, 13:08

What a crock of shit. Motor vehicle accidents still far outnumber motorcycle accidents so why just decide to pick on us.
Besides that, i would suggest that very few bike riders actually drink and ride compared to car drivers that drink and drive.

**The Reibz** · 6th March 2014, 13:15

Im still going to drink and ride. #YOLO

**Swoop** · 6th March 2014, 13:22

So if we are talking different alcohol amounts for different vehicles...

Why not a much higher amount for those towing a caravan? (You can always just stop and have a sleep).

Towing a horse float? (Higher alowance since you can just jump on the hay-conversion-device and it will let you ride it home!)
Also, think of the power to weight ratio of this, since the motive power is limited to one horsepower!

**Akzle** · 6th March 2014, 13:32

if theres to be a limit it should be zero. Makes enforcement real easy. Also, you have your car, nuts or nipples crushed for the first offence. (maybe freedom of choice, maybe a spinny decidey majig)
second offence you get shot.

But im all for anarchy.
Its just that theres fuckall point (but so much profit) in enforcing anything less.
And thats ap waste of taxpayer dollars.

**Muppet** · 6th March 2014, 13:35

Agree with what's being said above.

Personally I don't drink alcohol and ride. It's the Hogsters on their "Poker Runs" that need to worry, admit it or not we all know they're half tanked when they ride.

**Oakie** · 6th March 2014, 13:37

Originally Posted by The Reibz

Im still going to drink and ride. #YOLO

Hmmm, because YOLO, why would you want to risk it drinking and riding? (YOLO = 'You Only Live Once' for those not in the know).

**pritch** · 6th March 2014, 13:39

If someone wants to make the roads safer they could ban driving with Google glasses or similar. I note that the "no evil" corporation is campaigning against legislation banning these in some jurisdictions. On a positive note, I do like the way wearers are referred to as glassholes.