We have lost 13

**haydes55** · 9th March 2014, 15:35

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Number of registered motorcycles in NZ: 65000

Number of motorcyclist deaths in NZ: 13

13/65000 = 0.02%

That's two per thousand.

Some of you obviously don't find that acceptable.

In which case I can only suggest that you'd have to be idiots to continue riding.

Firstly, that's 2 in every 10,000

Number of years an average motorcyclist will ride for (complete guess) ~ 30

0.6% that's 6 in every thousand bikers that will die from riding motorbikes at some stage of their life.

Seeing how some people ride, they probably have closer to a 50% chance, some ride only down motorways and always end up with square tires, and probably have less than a 0.001% chance of dying on a bike.

(63% of all statistics are made up).

**Ocean1** · 9th March 2014, 16:01

Originally Posted by haydes55

Firstly, that's 2 in every 10,000

Yeah, my bad.

Point remains, if you don't like the odds then not riding is probably a better preventative measure than blaming all the dead guys.

**pipson** · 9th March 2014, 16:05

And another this afternoon.
A motorcyclist died at the scene on State Highway 39, just south of Ngaruawahia
http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/waik...-death-5861166

Shit it is just to many.

**Conquiztador** · 9th March 2014, 16:07

Originally Posted by haydes55

Firstly, that's 2 in every 10,000

Number of years an average motorcyclist will ride for (complete guess) ~ 30

0.6% that's 6 in every thousand bikers that will die from riding motorbikes at some stage of their life.

Seeing how some people ride, they probably have closer to a 50% chance, some ride only down motorways and always end up with square tires, and probably have less than a 0.001% chance of dying on a bike.

(63% of all statistics are made up).

Statistics mean nothing to the ones left behind. No, Im am in no way trying to say that every rider who was killed (or was injured for that matter...) is at blame. A car that pulls out from a side road in front of you is clearly at fault. But that is not much help when you are dead. On a bike you MUST be prepared for that kind of shit. If you ride and expect the road code to save you, then sadly you are the next statistic awaiting to happen.

Disclaimer: I ride like an idiot at times too. But I try to always be expecting the unexpected (apart from the safe dropping down...)

**Oakie** · 9th March 2014, 16:33

Originally Posted by haydes55

0.6% that's 6 in every thousand bikers that will die from riding motorbikes at some stage of their life.

They'd die at the very end of their life I'd suggest.

**Waihou Thumper** · 9th March 2014, 16:44

Bloody hell, what the fuck is going on?

A motorcyclist has died in a race in Wairarapa, the second auto racing fatality of the weekend.
A police communications spokesman confirmed the man died in the crash, believed to have been at the Cliffhanger Hill Climb event.
His death comes a day after a 68-year-old man died during a vintage car race at Waikato's Hampton Downs Motorsport Park.
The driver of a 1961 Cooper open-wheel formula car failed to negotiate a sweeping bend and collided with a wall during the vintage car race on Saturday, police said.
There has also been a previous fatality in the Cliffhanger race.
Malcolm Foster, 59, of Tawa was killed in the closed-road event in 2012.
The event is held on Te Wharau Road, Gladstone. The 6,100m hill climb races up through the Wairarapa hills and negotiates 27 corners.

MD · 9th March 2014, 16:47

Originally Posted by pipson

And another this afternoon.
A motorcyclist died at the scene on State Highway 39, just south of Ngaruawahia
http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/waik...-death-5861166

Shit it is just to many.

It gets worse. Look again, another today.

I don't know what the answer is. We keep dying at a rate that even people like me, that are addicted to riding and I admit I have my head in the sand at times towards the doom and gloom merchants, but weeks like this make it hard to ignore the risks are creeping up on us. Maybe we are all playing Russian roulette but I just can't see me every giving up riding. I just love it too much.

**Waihou Thumper** · 9th March 2014, 16:50

and add
....So far and counting....

Bad weekend all round me thinks...

**nz_forever** · 9th March 2014, 17:11

http://www.police.govt.nz/news/updates/32441

**Hitcher** · 9th March 2014, 17:14

FFS. I hate this ghoulish death toll fascination shit. Think of a number and double it.

The count's probably 15, given the death at the Cliffhanger.

**nz_forever** · 9th March 2014, 17:16

http://www.police.govt.nz/news/updates/32443

**jellywrestler** · 9th March 2014, 17:17

Originally Posted by haydes55

0.6% that's 6 in every thousand bikers that will die from riding motorbikes at some stage of their life.

that means there's 994 die from other means, best stop that shit too

**jellywrestler** · 9th March 2014, 17:21

Originally Posted by Waihou Thumper

His death comes a day after a 68-year-old man died during a vintage car race at Waikato's Hampton Downs Motorsport Park.

what's going on is you're not reading shit right. It was reported last night this driver didn't brake for the corner and may have suffered a medical event before hand. This then, if that's true, is the result of a heart attack or something else that happened to be while he was there.
go back to your plane crash and talk your shit there.

**Stylo** · 9th March 2014, 17:22

How many of the 13 were wearing Hi-viz ?

**James Deuce** · 9th March 2014, 17:26

Stats blip at the end of Summer instead of the start.

Just like the early season jump in heart attacks and neck and back injuries when club rugby starts up.

Now either go for a ride or give it up and take up knitting, bearing in mind that there are 2 knitting deaths globally every year. Sounds pretty dangerous to me.