Watch the news - B777 missing

[Mort]

No it you that's the fuckwit. I am just a realist who has been flying aircraft for almost 40 years and seen shit during those 40 years that allows me to form certain opinions.

Bollocks. Malaysia air has a 5 star safety & service record. Better than air nz. How the hell do you know what happened.

[gammaguy]

Maybe, or the fuselage failing, sudden decompression or even a fire? Or some panic stricken PAX went berserk, OR Aliens.....
Yip, you can have a job at CSI anyday... Nice one!

I am an engineer, as such reasonably logical

The only way a plane disappears is when there is a sudden or catastrophic failure of all communication or a sudden or catastrophic failure of the structure.

Any other scenarios would have initiated communication between pilot and traffic control and /or home base

Either we are not being told the whole story or things went wrong so fast no one on board had time to react

[MisterD]

such as what would happen if a bomb went off?

It's being reported that the Italian and Austrian passengers on the list are safe and well and had previously had passports stolen in Thailand...are we thinking the 'T' word yet?

[Berries]

are we thinking the 'T' word yet?

T-girls?


.....

[SMOKEU]

such as what would happen if a bomb went off?

Yes.

Cooooool! Instant conspiracy!

Could be.

Maybe, or the fuselage failing, sudden decompression or even a fire? Or some panic stricken PAX went berserk, OR Aliens.....
Yip, you can have a job at CSI anyday... Nice one!

They have smoke detectors fitted, and fire suppression equipment. Even with a fire there's still enough redundant communications to communicate with ATC.

It wasn't "minor". The wing was damaged.

Minor compared to a hull loss.

No it you that's the fuckwit. I am just a realist who has been flying aircraft for almost 40 years and seen shit during those 40 years that allows me to form certain opinions.

Sweet. What do you fly?

[PrincessBandit]

Minor compared to a hull loss.

But not necessarily insignificant, which is what "minor" implies.

[SMOKEU]

But not necessarily insignificant, which is what "minor" implies.

Time will tell I guess...

[PrincessBandit]

Time will tell I guess...

Indeed. Also in terms of two passengers apparently traveling on stolen passports, only time will reveal whether that was a factor.
Who knows until the experts have been able to complete their investigations. Just sad all round that the actions of some can have a devastating effect on all on board an aircraft. (And those "some" could be maintenance personnel,passengers with a grudge or mission ...) Oil slicks of up to 15km long don't sound good though.

[jellywrestler]

Oil slicks of up to 15km long don't sound good though.

well that probably means it didn't run out of oil...

[Laava]

Yep, is a bit sad and probably, from 35,000feet they aren,t looking for survivors.

[Akzle]

It's being reported that the Italian and Austrian passengers on the list are safe and well and had previously had passports stolen in Thailand...are we thinking the 'T' word yet?

i think you mean the 'j' word.
Just, the js will blame it on the ts.
Probably chrimean ts. Better give them some democracy...

[Naki Rat]

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I've been following this thread too.

Holy shit. I thought KB had a fair helping of keyboard experts but we're amateurs compared to these guys!!

[SMOKEU]

Holy shit. I thought KB had a fair helping of keyboard experts but we're amateurs compared to these guys!!

Things get very heated on there with all the "experts", many of whom are armchair pilots, with quite a few real pilots mixed in. It's funny reading about some of the stuff that happens in the cockpit that the passengers don't know about.

Here's a thread about drunk pax.

[Tigadee]

Yet another reason not to fly on a plane that is operated by people who's eye's are not wide open.

Fuck you, round eye! These days there's as much chance the pilots are caucasians as they'd be other nationalities, especially long haul routes...

No it you that's the fuckwit. I am just a realist who has been flying aircraft for almost 40 years and seen shit during those 40 years that allows me to form certain opinions.

Yeah sure, the majority of air crashes in the history of commercial aviation can be attributed to pilot error of the slant-eyed kind...

Besides, they're investigating two suspicious passengers who embarked with false passports.

[avgas]

Yet another reason not to fly on a plane that is operated by people who's eye's are not wide open.

erm - how would you know.
Most people don't see pilots. Which is why they can get on the plane drunk in NZ.....