Braking in a corner - from Nick Ienatsch

[SPman]

An interesting read but most of what is in it was in the other thread, problem being that it was mixed in with a lot of dross. I have Ienatch's book and generally like his style.

We do need to read things like that from time to time, keeps them near the "front" of the brain for when you have that one third of a second to find them.

Knowing is good, but trying to apply that knowledge in an emergency is touch and go. Better to practice first, so you can actually do it without using a precious third of a second thinking about it.

[Maha]

I can brake through a corner, with great effect. But I am all class.

[pritch]

Knowing is good, but trying to apply that knowledge in an emergency is touch and go. Better to practice first, so you can actually do it without using a precious third of a second thinking about it.

Not really. Your brain should work faster than your fingers. I think a lot of the arguments that appear on KB are not about riding technique but about reading technique. Perhaps if we all allowed some lattitude as to what was meant?

Oh, and I do practice, but one has to distinguish between practice and normal technique.

A couple of posters say that normally you should brake while upright, and that's absolutely true, the brakes and tyres can't work better than that. It is also true though that as Ienatch says, we should prepare for the unexpected.

So let's not all look for something to disagree with, that'll only confuse beginners who may be looking for useful information.

[Katman]

I'm intrigued by the number of people who claim you should never brake while cornering.

What happens when you're going around a blind corner?

The best you can do is be asking yourself "Can I stop in the distance in which I can see?"

If an unexpected hazard appears midway through that blind corner you'd better hope that you know what to do with your brakes.

[Gremlin]

I'm intrigued by the number of people who claim you should never brake while cornering.

What happens when you're going around a blind corner?

Let's ignore the unexpected (cattle/other animals on road). Obviously (well, I hope so) if there is suddenly something in your path, you're going to brake. This isn't what sparked the conversation. The original mention was around regular road and track riding, dragging the brake into corners as a usual method of riding.

As you approach a blind corner, you set your speed based on the information available. Clearly you're not going to try and attempt the corner at 100 as you have no idea what's coming. My point (and I think a few others agree) is that you complete your braking or speed adjustment before the corner, rather than brake into the corner.

[Katman]

Let's ignore the unexpected (cattle/other animals on road). Obviously (well, I hope so) if there is suddenly something in your path, you're going to brake. This isn't what sparked the conversation. The original mention was around regular road and track riding, dragging the brake into corners as a usual method of riding.

I actually don't give a fuck what sparked the conversation.

You've openly condemned the use of brakes when cornering - clearly forgetting that there may well be times that it is absolutely necessary.

It is important that people have an understanding of how braking while cornering can be safely achieved.

The main reason that I will often trail brake with the rear brake while negotiating a blind corner is that it initiates the braking process if an unexpected hazard does appear.

[Gremlin]

I actually don't give a fuck what sparked the conversation.

You've openly condemned the use of brakes when cornering - clearly forgetting that there may well be times that it is absolutely necessary.

In an emergency... brake.

Wooo, we agree, I'm so happy!

[Katman]

In an emergency... brake.

Wooo, we agree, I'm so happy!

Except it would appear that you'd prefer that people didn't actually know how to safely do it mid corner.

[Gremlin]

Except it would appear that you'd prefer that people didn't actually know how to safely do it mid corner.

Your math is bad. There are plenty of things that should be practised in a safe environment.

Practising in a safe area, and your general approach to road riding are two completely different things.

[tbs]

I found this the other night and thought of this discussion:

http://forums.superbikeschool.com/in...showtopic=4034