So when will the sharemarket crash in 2014?

[mashman]

Dont

Ive got the space for my TV all cleared and ready and there is only 34 ? days, I believe before Xmas
So the current system is fine and all is well carry on

To do my thing , In my time, an be beholdent to no one unless" I " choose to.

the current system is fine , but debt and greed has made it unworkable. Money ( not currency ) should be a store of wealth. Not to be erroded by the few to keep the many at bay.

When I was born I was given 2 things , Time and freedom. I like to keep those two thanks , even if they do have some string attached . ( energy input and responsibility )

Stephen

Ps bring back the tally stick

WTF is a store of wealth? I've been searching for a definition and never seem to be able to find one... with any luck three will turn up at once.

[ellipsis]

WTF is a store of wealth? I've been searching for a definition and never seem to be able to find one... with any luck three will turn up at once.

...they will probably be closed due to a mall opening nearby...

[Voltaire]

There always are. Instead of my broken record, I'll ask a question. What would you like an alternative to achieve?

I went to the Soviet Union in 1988, Moscow and Leningrad, they all seemed pretty much like the rest of us despite what Ronald Regan was spouting.
Then on to London, same sort of deal there. One year was making 500 quid a week ( sparkie), next year out of work for months...
Europe seemed a better all round place socially but that's probably a result of two wars.
Never had the desire to go to the US, I gather that's much the same, rich and poor.
Seems to be a global problem and the labour/National 3 year flip flop does not really make much difference.
Currently its like the whole world is on the Titanic , some in first class, some in steerage....but its all going to end badly...global warming, Walmarts....etc
Fortunately I have a shed where I can play with old bikes and not think about it all too much.

[Brian d marge]

WTF is a store of wealth? I've been searching for a definition and never seem to be able to find one... with any luck three will turn up at once.

Wealth, my good man is the shyt load of home brew I have in my cupboard. Thats what wealth is

Stephen

the only time 3 turn up at once is on a pissing cold day in Stoke newington and even then they are full

[mashman]

I went to the Soviet Union in 1988, Moscow and Leningrad, they all seemed pretty much like the rest of us despite what Ronald Regan was spouting.
Then on to London, same sort of deal there. One year was making 500 quid a week ( sparkie), next year out of work for months...
Europe seemed a better all round place socially but that's probably a result of two wars.
Never had the desire to go to the US, I gather that's much the same, rich and poor.
Seems to be a global problem and the labour/National 3 year flip flop does not really make much difference.
Currently its like the whole world is on the Titanic , some in first class, some in steerage....but its all going to end badly...global warming, Walmarts....etc
Fortunately I have a shed where I can play with old bikes and not think about it all too much.

Funny that... people are people but the systems in place are used to define people as something other than people. You still didn't answer the question though

Oh, and it'll end fine coz there's plenty of dickheads like me around

Wealth, my good man is the shyt load of home brew I have in my cupboard. Thats what wealth is

Stephen

the only time 3 turn up at once is on a pissing cold day in Stoke newington and even then they are full

So money is the cupboard. You're not gonna get much beer in there... and if one of 'em leaks you're really screwed.

[Voltaire]

Funny that... people are people but the systems in place are used to define people as something other than people. You still didn't answer the question though

Oh, and it'll end fine coz there's plenty of dickheads like me around

Has anyone got the answer.

[mashman]

Has anyone got the answer.

Absolutely... the question was what would YOU like to see in an alternative. Not necessarily how it should work, but what the goals should be according to YOU.

[Brian d marge]

So money is the cupboard. You're not gonna get much beer in there... and if one of 'em leaks you're really screwed.

problem solved

Stephen

Storing wealth since ages ago

[mashman]

problem solved

Stephen

Storing wealth since ages ago

Wringing beer out of money. Interesting twist.

[Brian d marge]

Wringing beer out of money. Interesting twist.

its a percieved wealth

and will do me just fine

Stephen

[avgas]

I went to the Soviet Union in 1988, Moscow and Leningrad, they all seemed pretty much like the rest of us despite what Ronald Regan was spouting.
Then on to London, same sort of deal there. One year was making 500 quid a week ( sparkie), next year out of work for months...
Europe seemed a better all round place socially but that's probably a result of two wars.
Never had the desire to go to the US, I gather that's much the same, rich and poor.
Seems to be a global problem and the labour/National 3 year flip flop does not really make much difference.
Currently its like the whole world is on the Titanic , some in first class, some in steerage....but its all going to end badly...global warming, Walmarts....etc
Fortunately I have a shed where I can play with old bikes and not think about it all too much.

SSDD
Yeah I've been to NZ/Aus/Japan/China and now the U.S.
Doesn't matter which country you're in - money talks. Japan was the most balanced of the lot - even the Yakuza turn up in Toyota Crowns (nice ones though), next would be NZ/Aus. China and U.S. are the same thing now days. Rich people, poor people, government spying on you.
Poor in China were the hardest to see - make the poor in NZ/U.S. seem like they are living the dream. China poor means you have to half the clothes your wearing because your kids need clothes. Rice is an option when you can eat bugs. Also most of the poor in China are disabled in some way, or fake it just to get some money to eat.......either way that is the only thing that is stopping China literally taking over the whole world.

Walmarts are just a brand name. They literally operate the same as K-Mart, The Warehouse, Foodtown, Pack'n'Save, SuperCheap Auto...... It's very easy to point a finger at it, because its the biggest, but if it didn't exist one of the others would have stepped up. If you purchase pretty much anything normal these days - you're part of the problem.

[Voltaire]

SSDD
Yeah I've been to NZ/Aus/Japan/China and now the U.S.
Doesn't matter which country you're in - money talks. Japan was the most balanced of the lot - even the Yakuza turn up in Toyota Crowns (nice ones though), next would be NZ/Aus. China and U.S. are the same thing now days. Rich people, poor people, government spying on you.
Poor in China were the hardest to see - make the poor in NZ/U.S. seem like they are living the dream. China poor means you have to half the clothes your wearing because your kids need clothes. Rice is an option when you can eat bugs. Also most of the poor in China are disabled in some way, or fake it just to get some money to eat.......either way that is the only thing that is stopping China literally taking over the whole world.

Walmarts are just a brand name. They literally operate the same as K-Mart, The Warehouse, Foodtown, Pack'n'Save, SuperCheap Auto...... It's very easy to point a finger at it, because its the biggest, but if it didn't exist one of the others would have stepped up. If you purchase pretty much anything normal these days - you're part of the problem.

The Documentaries I have watched on Walmarts must have been made up then.

[avgas]

The Documentaries I have watched on Walmarts must have been made up then.

I'm not saying Walmart aren't bad.......just that they aren't alone and we don't seem to want to stop the mentality.

Ask any farmer or grower what they think about the price of goods at the local supermarket. Even in NZ the bullshit is thick.

[Voltaire]

I'm not saying Walmart aren't bad.......just that they aren't alone and we don't seem to want to stop the mentality.

Ask any farmer or grower what they think about the price of goods at the local supermarket. Even in NZ the bullshit is thick.

Yes that was on the news here for a while till the next newsy thing came along......got lots of no likes on Facebook too, the power of the internet

The French are the ones who know how to protest, 35 hour weeks, long lunches, nice food.....

[scrivy]

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