So when will the sharemarket crash in 2014?

[bogan]

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Is it wizards then? I mean seriously, I've been trying to think of ways this could work, and it just can't. You must not know a way in which it could work either, otherwise you'd post it, surely? Unless of course you're a government shill just looking to discredit the no-money party, in which case, you're doing a bang-up job!

[mashman]

Is it wizards then? I mean seriously, I've been trying to think of ways this could work, and it just can't. You must not know a way in which it could work either, otherwise you'd post it, surely? Unless of course you're a government shill just looking to discredit the no-money party, in which case, you're doing a bang-up job!

Did you say seriously? Really? Walk a mile in the shoes of a person who knows that an R.B.E. will work and then we may be able to talk on an even footing. Until then, all you're doing is asking me about is the current financial system and not applying any form of scientific method (tui) to the alternative...and amusingly enough, NOW is a personal belief (or in my case fact, reason and logic under the umbrella of knowing). You may not like that, but you've done fuck all to assure me that you're worth listening to, let alone offering any form of argument against NOW that has any relevance to anything other than you. Yes, I realise that your perception is king, got no problems with that either, but you could try to put some form of effort into it... but you'd have to give a shit first.

[bogan]

Did you say seriously? Really? Walk a mile in the shoes of a person who knows that an R.B.E. will work and then we may be able to talk on an even footing. Until then, all you're doing is asking me about is the current financial system and not applying any form of scientific method (tui) to the alternative...and amusingly enough, NOW is a personal belief (or in my case fact, reason and logic under the umbrella of knowing). You may not like that, but you've done fuck all to assure me that you're worth listening to, let alone offering any form of argument against NOW that has any relevance to anything other than you. Yes, I realise that your perception is king, got no problems with that either, but you could try to put some form of effort into it... but you'd have to give a shit first.

I have the ability to put myself in somebody else's shoes thanks, and have done so. Yet I still cannot see a way this could work. I realise we differ in opinion on the sustainability due to our differing perceptions of human nature, but this is about the setup, and that has to be done within a transitional framework incorporating both financial (national debt and international property ownership) and rbe stuff. There is simply no way to get out of those obligations using million dollar hammer financial trickery.

[mashman]

I have the ability to put myself in somebody else's shoes thanks, and have done so. Yet I still cannot see a way this could work. I realise we differ in opinion on the sustainability due to our differing perceptions of human nature, but this is about the setup, and that has to be done within a transitional framework incorporating both financial (national debt and international property ownership) and rbe stuff. There is simply no way to get out of those obligations using million dollar hammer financial trickery.

Can NZ generate more money, without more money being invested in NZ from external sources? If the answer is yes, then you can play the system against itself. If the answer is no, then what the fuck are we working for?

[bogan]

Can NZ generate more money, without more money being invested in NZ from external sources. If the answer is yes, then you can play the system against itself. If the answer is no, then what the fuck are we working for?

Of course it can, through work invested in the economy; not through price manipulation of goods for an easy/quick gain.

[nodrog:Me]

http://www.rootsimple.com/wp-content...y-preppers.jpg

[scrivy]

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Holy shit!!

I was peering through your window the other day Gordie, and saw you and your missus wearing those going hard at it......

P.S. Where's my Ken you promised?? You bringing it down in a few weeks??

[mashman]

Of course it can, through work invested in the economy; not through price manipulation of goods for an easy/quick gain.

If you don't divorce the concept of financial impact on human life, then NOW will not make sense to you. Separate the two systems and use the financial system to value the human activity that you want it to value, using the mechanisms currently available, in order to meet whatever bottom line you need it to be.

The final figure is all important. What comprises that final figure is entirely up to us.

It's nigh on impossible to explain if you can't split the two systems.

http://www.rootsimple.com/wp-content...y-preppers.jpg

For some reason that reminds me of the voice of Charlie Bron's teacher. phwhar, phwhar. phwhar phwhar phwhar, phwhar phwhar phwhar. Maybe I should become a dentist and train for the new language to come.

[bogan]

If you don't divorce the concept of financial impact on human life, then NOW will not make sense to you. Separate the two systems and use the financial system to value the human activity that you want it to value, using the mechanisms currently available, in order to meet whatever bottom line you need it to be.

The final figure is all important. What comprises that final figure is entirely up to us.

It's nigh on impossible to explain if you can't split the two systems.

I'm questioning your claim that million dollar hammers can pay off the debt; since that is your claim, it is you who has not divorced yourself from the financial system. Is it really that difficult for you to admit you were wrong?

[Oscar]

I'm questioning your claim that million dollar hammers can pay off the debt; since that is your claim, it is you who has not divorced yourself from the financial system. Is it really that difficult for you to admit you were wrong?

Since he doesn't have much of a clue about what he's raving about most of the time, the concept of wrong or right is probably difficult for him...

[mashman]

I'm questioning your claim that million dollar hammers can pay off the debt; since that is your claim, it is you who has not divorced yourself from the financial system. Is it really that difficult for you to admit you were wrong?

I knew it was a bit of an ask, but I thought I'd try anyway.

[bogan]

Since he doesn't have much of a clue about what he's raving about most of the time, the concept of wrong or right is probably difficult for him...

Yeh, I'm getting that impression too.

[Brian d marge]

http://www.rootsimple.com/wp-content...y-preppers.jpg

While I haven’t a Tactical vehicle or a shipping container 20 ft under the ground

I have sharpened my skill set. Run a few things ( what ifs ) and water seems to be the biggest problem

Remember, all Joking aside , we tend to have big earthquakes and they tend to be followed by massive waves

Earthquakes are VERY common here ,

After the last one , the very things that were in the link Britain’s blackout, happened here. Gasoline , water ,toilet paper , batteries all went from the shelf

Only have a dozen beers though, as I have been raiding it

Stephen

P.s A forest doesn’t need money,nor do the animals living in it. Strange that.

[mashman]

Yeh, I'm getting that impression too.

You have my sympathies.

[blue rider]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/is-the-u...market-rigged/

fun is to be had all around