I'm voting for the Maroi Party

**Lias** · 2nd September 2005, 12:00

O.K., the country would be different, but what exactly would be destroyed?
The environment? Social justice? A pleasant, healthy lifestyle?
Or just your opportunities for exploitation and self-enrichment?

A few of the things labour has fucked up whilst in power so far:
The sanctity of marriage
The RNZAF
The legal system (privy council/supreme court)
Public confidence in the police
ANZUS Treaty & NZ-Australian relations
Massive non english speaking immigration
Attempted hate speech laws

I could go on for pages I'm sure, but those are some of the big ones. Any unholy trinity coalition of labour, maori and greens would probably see us outlawing all sorts of things.. Like being white, male and middle class!

**Quasievil** · 2nd September 2005, 12:32

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

as was this thread... and the election specials and... aaaa you get the idea...

Of course mate, I have to protect the weak minded from agreeing with you though

**Hitcher** · 2nd September 2005, 12:42

Originally Posted by LiasTZ

A few of the things labour has fucked up whilst in power so far:
The sanctity of marriage
The RNZAF
The legal system (privy council/supreme court)
Public confidence in the police
ANZUS Treaty & NZ-Australian relations
Massive non english speaking immigration
Attempted hate speech laws

The only thing on this list that I would agree with is the RNZAF. The rest is Redneck Party raving -- no problem identified, no solution offered.

Vote for change. Vote BDOTGNZA!

**Wolf** · 2nd September 2005, 12:45

Originally Posted by LiasTZ

A few of the things labour has fucked up whilst in power so far:
The sanctity of marriage
...

Thank you, George Dubilya...

Dude, that "Sanctity of Marriage" shit is fallacious and you know it. Unless, of course, angry bullies smashing the shit out of co-dependant women who lack the self-respect to kick the fucker in the nuts and find a good divorce lawyer is somehow "sanctified".

There is no atrocity that has not been perpetrated within the bounds of supposed "holy" wedlock and you're saying that the ability of people - both homosexuals and heterosexuals - to have a "Civil Union" in some way undermines that?

Admittedly the distinction between a legal "marriage" (especially when a Civil Celebrant is all that is required to perform a legal marriage of two people) and a "Civil Union" is little more than legal semantics, but one could argue that the amendments to Matrimonial Property law that came in ages ago rendered the distinction between a legally "married" couple and a "de facto" couple (whether hetero- or homosexual) null and void anyway. The Matrimonial Property Act amendment effectively put "living in sin" on a par with a church marriage.

Honestly, if anyone should complain about the Civil Union bill it's those who make use of it because it is little more than a way for the government to get revenue from a large chunk of people who were previously unable to get fleeced by marriage licence fees.

I attended a couple of friends' Civil Union and enjoyed it immensely. I do not feel that my marriage has been undermined or made less sacred (we had a civil celebrant, a priest and a priestess conducting our wedding in front of our friends, family and deities) by the ability of people to make a choice between "marriage", living "de facto" and "Civil Union"; nor by the fact that the last two options are open to homosexuals.

Don't worry, dude, "marriage" is still protected and only available to heterosexuals thanks to sexually-bigotted people who kicked up a fuss about the possibility of opening it to gays. Bad enough we disgusting pagans and all those filthy atheists out there can get a marriage licence and even choose to get married in a church if we/they wish, without those gays getting in on the act, eh? Best create a separate officially recognised union to appease the bigots but not even that works because "Civil Union = Sanctity of Marriage Compromised" ... that "towering intellect" GW Bush said so!

**MikeL** · 2nd September 2005, 12:51

Originally Posted by Hitcher

The only thing on this list that I would agree with is the RNZAF. The rest is Redneck Party raving -- no problem identified, no solution offered.

Vote for change. Vote BDOTGNZA!

See? Thinking outside the square is possible...

**MikeL** · 2nd September 2005, 12:59

And thank you, Wolf, for that convincing demolition job on the "sanctity of marriage" nonsense. The idea that giving something to someone equates to taking something away from someone else shows how deeply we have been indoctrinated by the thinking of economists and bean-counters.

Generosity of spirit is not like money in the bank: the more you spread it around, the richer you become...

**duckman** · 2nd September 2005, 13:08

Originally Posted by MikeL

Generosity of spirit is not like money in the bank: the more you spread it around, the richer you become...

Quote 'o the day .... nice.

**gamgee** · 2nd September 2005, 13:20

Originally Posted by LiasTZ

A few of the things labour has fucked up whilst in power so far:
The legal system (privy council/supreme court)

so you'd rather travel to london or where ever it was to have your case heard in NZ's highest court which just so happens to be in another country?

i don't support labour but that is one thing they did which i actually think was a good idea, i could rant on about why for a while but i'm not going to

**MSTRS:Me** · 2nd September 2005, 13:24

Originally Posted by Wolf

...... filthy atheists.......

OI! I shower every day. AND I use soap.

**MSTRS:Me** · 2nd September 2005, 13:33

Originally Posted by kerryg

Cullen and Keys were bloody good, all credit to both of them. Well informed, credible...damn hard to pick between the two of 'em IMHO

That prick Cullen should be put against a wall and rotten-tomatoed. He could not stop himself running off at the mouth and drowning out what Keys had to say (wonder if it was because Keys actually had something sensible to say? Dunno cos I never got to hear it) BUT when that Anderton git was pontificating & Hyde started in over the top, Cullen had a sudden attack of the WavyArmToShutHimUp. Arrogant dickhead. I often see him in our local supermarket & let me tell you - I would not give that man my money to look after. Dirty, unkempt clothing, unshaven and you should see what he eats

Why anyone would want this prat & his cronies 'looking after' the country I can't understand.

**MikeL** · 2nd September 2005, 13:35

Originally Posted by gamgee

i don't support labour but that is one thing they did which i actually think was a good idea,

Funny how often you hear people start a sentence with "I'm not a Labour supporter, but..."

And what's funnier, they all say different things...

And what's funniest, is that we all know that Labour has fucked up this country good and proper...

**Jonty** · 2nd September 2005, 13:42

Originally Posted by gamgee

so you'd rather travel to london or where ever it was to have your case heard in NZ's highest court which just so happens to be in another country?

i don't support labour but that is one thing they did which i actually think was a good idea, i could rant on about why for a while but i'm not going to

Have to disagree there gamgee. The Supreme Court in thoery is a good idea and one day I am sure it will be adept at serving the purpose for which it was designed. However, the only reason it is here now is because of Margret Wilson's on political agenda. Now she can sit back when she is retired and say I did that, rather than laying the foundation for a new court and taking to step back to invite serious discussion. Unfortunatley, it was done in far to much of a hurry, we now lack the judical depth (and quality) that England can offer and with the issue of land claims, we cannot get an impartial view.

I can go on for days, but the overiding thing is that the Supreme Court is a creature of political policy at the time.

**T.I.E** · 2nd September 2005, 13:45

what am i.

part maori nga Puhi. racial slander as it is i'm worried.
i do my job, i have never been on the benifit and never will.
i have paid my way through life. never had a hand out being education or medical or anything.
i have never wanted nor have i taken anyones help.

i don't need it nor do i want it.

and with the bashing that maoridom gets, do i want to be a maori now?

i have always been a kiwi, not a new zealander, not a maori nor a pakeha.
just a kiwi.

someone screws up we blame them for their looks. its always superficial. asian islander moari.

stuff this i'm a kiwi. who do i vote for. where is the kiwi party?