Final Round of Road Race Championships at Manfeild (29 March)

[Drew]

Yeah, sounds a better effort than normal. There were a shit tonne left at Taupo the week before.

[RobGassit]

Rob, everything has been well said here and your issue as been all sorted by those in charge on the day, so we will put that behind us.

What my personal concern is, that obviously pit lane is not the TRACK ok, you dont get the Checkered flag which is not recognised, travelling through PIT LANE ok, all which have been answered.
(just a senario here though) If i came around the last turn on the last lap, my kill switch lanyard happened to come unplugged killing power to the bike, i immediately pull off into pit lane for saftey reasons, without stopping plug the lanyard back in, power up and continue through pit lane at the correct speed and rejoin a finished race???, it sounds like you can do it by all accounts as said on here, this just does not make sense to me.
In reality i should have been stopped, and not joined a race that had finished, with bikes on a slow down lap, we all talk about differentials of speed and this is clearly the case in this senario.

I dont think i am being old and stupid here, i have been racing over 12 years, and seen some good mates i have raced with, who are no longer with us, and i just don't want any more like that to happen. Maybe this is something that MNZ needs to look at, another grey area ???

No worries Rus, lessons learned. You should have been there on friday when after a false start under full course red flag the leaders were still full throttle into the last turn.

[jellywrestler]

No worries Rus, lessons learned. You should have been there on friday when after a false start under full course red flag

my Mrs often has the red flag in, usually about once a month; but I tend to still push as hard as I can!
Never had any official word on that one touch my own wood.

[Drew]

I must be missing something. A false start? As in, the lights failed? People jumped the start, and then stayed up it past a red flag at every flag point?

[RobGassit]

I must be missing something. A false start? As in, the lights failed? People jumped the start, and then stayed up it past a red flag at every flag point?

Protwins, all front row jumped, COC issued red flag all points, leaders entered last turn full throttle.

[Shaun Harris]

Protwins, all front row jumped, COC issued red flag all points, leaders entered last turn full throttle.

serious? that means they made it past 4 points where a flag would have been shown does it not?

[Billy]

Well, what a load of old cock this thread is.

Thought there might be some discussion on what I am told was fantastic racing. Guess not.

Too true young man,

It was most definitely some of the best racing seen in this country for quite some time,In particular the 125GP,250Production,Supersport and Superbike classes,That last superbike race was a sight to behold,Bring on 2015,Interestingly we now have numerous people requesting more of the 4 day meetings,A huge turn around from when I first released the new format,I'm confident those that didn't make the effort due to work commitments,Will most definitely make the efoort next year

[Billy]

[QUOTE=RobGassit;1130702787]

As I said, "Gods Law". It's the constant replacement of the gods that leave the system vulnerable.

Too true Rob,

It was my intention to have the same oficials at each round,Somebody wasn't happy after the SI rounds and made a fuss.

The REAL issue though,Appears to be the constant changing of the wording of rules and rules just disappearing with out of the manual without the commissioners involved or the stewards being informed,Seems to me,Some are underperforming in their positions and need to be moved on.

[Biggles08]

some years ago chris haldane crashed at turn one at manfeild in the last lap of a 45 min sports production race on the long track, he remounted and rode thirteen corners and instead of pitting to get scrutinneered he continued on 45 meters through a straight line and the start finish.
they ruled that the finish line also extended through pit lane and he should've gone through and would have still finished and won the race...

The rules must have been diferent 'some years ago' then Spyda. Its not the way now.

[Biggles08]

"Bad Decision" is your interpretation, and bears no relation to the facts. And I expect a riders representative to be a mediator, not judgemental.
In reality, the rider was entitled to re enter the course as they had not crossed the finish line. They continued thru the pits at 40kph, rejoined safely, finished the race in a safe manner with all due care and attention to other riders. After a meeting with the steward,who had consulted other officials in pit lane, this was confirmed to have been the Facts. In dispute was whether the rider had crossed the finish line while going thru the pits, as the transponder had been triggered. It was the stewards decision that they had not. Therefore the rider finished 12th instead of 5th.I dispute vigorously any suggestion this rider put anyone else at risk, while trying to complete a competition they had invested 6 months and countless dollars to compete in.

In any event, the matter was dealt with professionally at the time, and it shone light on some irregularities in the rule book, which hopefully will be helpful in the future.

Truth actually be told Rob, The racer should not have been allowed back onto the 'dead' track at all in my opinion (which really means very little). The same situation exactly happened to me in the winter series a couple of year ago and I was unaware it was the last lap. My bike was cutting in and out with a faulty kill switch so I pitted on the last lap...as I entered the pits I saw the chequered flag being waved and kicked myself for pitting as the bike was actually still going but I felt it was dangerous to continue. I was given a DNF because I didn't re-enter the track regardless of passing the transponder line 'in pits' (And in my circumstances shouldn't have as my bike was not 100%). I still believe entering a track where bikes are on the cool down lap while you are at race pace is not a good decision (not saying the racer was dangerous or rode dangerously here either). Soooo....letting the racer back on the track to start with also was a bad decision in the heat of battle to be fair.

As you said, the matter was dealt with and this conversation from my part is merely learning to improve the rules (as was very clear to me in my role over the NZSBK).

[mr bucketracer]

some of the best racing i have seen with so meany that could win ! but the protwins ...crap crap and sounds like crap. let the old f3bikes in that class and spice it up ..lap times the same so why thay ever aloud worked on engines to make sv650s into f3 bikes i will never no ..

[Robert Taylor]

some of the best racing i have seen with so meany that could win ! but the protwins ...crap crap and sounds like crap. let the old f3bikes in that class and spice it up ..lap times the same so why thay ever aloud worked on engines to make sv650s into f3 bikes i will never no ..

This class needs new bikes, not old bikes. Thats what Post Classic and vintage is for.

[mr bucketracer]

This class needs new bikes, not old bikes. Thats what Post Classic and vintage is for.

11 bikes just don't cut it and hay its about keeping clubs running . it worked with tim gibbs

[Shaun Harris]

This class needs new bikes, not old bikes. Thats what Post Classic and vintage is for.

If I was ever to race again this class would be my favourite choice due to costs and the fact that a 650 does give you a bit of a buzz with HP

I would go for a Kawasaki 650

[Robert Taylor]

11 bikes just don't cut it and hay its about keeping clubs running . it worked with tim gibbs

Yes but as I best recall ( and Im prepared to be corrected ) Suzuki NZ were paying the bills and it didnt continue / grow.