So the guy who's bought the political left in NZ is a Nazi sympathiser

[Oscar]

I'm not too sure to be honest considering he was a right wing supporter up until he got illegally harassed by them.
As for the rest of your rant, I'm not sure the point?
"convicted fraudster" - ok so he's qualified for politics
"sometime pornographer" not sure what this has to do with anything? Are you some kinda prude?
"full time self promoter" so he's a business man, is that a bad thing?

My question is why you have such an issue with Dotcom? I can't see anything different here than any other political party except he's slightly more open with it

I'm not surprised you missed the point. Anyone that says a fraud conviction is a qualification for politics is obviously a first time caller idiot.

[mashman]

HDC is a fan of the chaos theory. Dotcom is more of a KAOS theory.

So Schmart, ve meet again....

This is some live rock and roll at KAOS, where rock and roll comes out of chaos and a song called "The Powers that Be"

[oldrider]

I don't know what "history" you're reading, but your comments are not only silly, but quite offensive to some people.

Whatever, thats the way you are supposed to react!

[scott411]

I'm not too sure to be honest considering he was a right wing supporter up until he got illegally harassed by them.
As for the rest of your rant, I'm not sure the point?
"convicted fraudster" - ok so he's qualified for politics
"sometime pornographer" not sure what this has to do with anything? Are you some kinda prude?
"full time self promoter" so he's a business man, is that a bad thing?

My question is why you have such an issue with Dotcom? I can't see anything different here than any other political party except he's slightly more open with it

it could be said he only went to the left wing parties because the 'donations' he made to Banks did not buy him the favors he wanted when in Jail,

[The Reibz]

Did any of you stop to think that with all this swastika memorabilia he could actually be a patched member of the Mongrel Mob?

Seig Heil Aurraaahhhh Dot Com!

[Oscar]

Whatever, thats the way you are supposed to react!

My main reaction was that spouting that shit makes you look really, really stupid.
You should try and think about the difference between what is written and what is proven.

[oldrider]

My main reaction was that spouting that shit makes you look really, really stupid.
You should try and think about the difference between what is written and what is proven.

Chuckle chuckle, at my age looking stupid goes with the territory, doesn't change anything though!

Ask yourself how on earth one man (or a few) could turn a nation to think and act the way they did, theres a lot more under the surface than we are led to believe!

Thats why I went looking to see wtf could be behind it all, then weigh it up against what is clearly factual, all is not as it would seem!

After years and years of looking, the view starts to get rather alarming, unbelievable even but of course you are obviously content with the party line!

To each his own, I am at peace with my own views.

[Oscar]

Chuckle chuckle, at my age looking stupid goes with the territory, doesn't change anything though!

Ask yourself how on earth one man (or a few) could turn a nation to think and act the way they did, theres a lot more under the surface than we are led to believe!

Thats why I went looking to see wtf could be behind it all, then weigh it up against what is clearly factual, all is not as it would seem!

After years and years of looking, the view starts to get rather alarming, unbelievable even but of course you are obviously content with the party line!

To each his own, I am at peace with my own views.

There is all sorts of shit out there - every man and his dog has a theory on history - you don't have to believe them all.
I'm actually struggling to figure which of your statements is the stupidest - but I've settled on this:

WW2 was mostly about developing world debt..

Really? Some random questions occur after reading that:
The world had just come out of an economic depression; there was already plenty of debt to go around. And if it was about "Jewish Bankers", how come the Soviets were involved? They were already broke. How did the Jews get the Japanese to enter the war?
Your simplistic attempt to explain the causes of the most complex war in history does not stand up to even cursory examination.
And blaming the Jews is just contemptible.
You should be ashamed.

[F5 Dave]

Owning a signed copy of "Mein Kampf" is the sign of a shrewd investor with some spare cash. No one would be bitching if he'd bought Helen Clark's teeth, but they're arguably nearly as evil.

Depends when he bought them, - like if he paid for extraction say next week. . .

Anyway the're not so evil in the photoshoped election versions.

[carbonhed]

Seems the Left's Dr Evil neglected to mention the signed copy of Mein Kampfe, Churchill's cigar holder, and Stalin's left nut in his declaration of assets to the court. D'oh

On the question of why the left gives this douchebag the time of day... desperation does funny things to ambitious politicians. However at a time when Labour is hemorrhaging the female vote to National this does seem more than usually stupid. Fat, kraut, criminal, pornographers trying to subvert the NZ democratic process with the liberal application of ill gotten loot whilst poncing around in Nazi regalia doesn't generally go down well with the fairer sex.

[oldrider]

There is all sorts of shit out there - every man and his dog has a theory on history - you don't have to believe them all.
I'm actually struggling to figure which of your statements is the stupidest - but I've settled on this:



Really? Some random questions occur after reading that:
The world had just come out of an economic depression; there was already plenty of debt to go around. And if it was about "Jewish Bankers", how come the Soviets were involved? They were already broke. How did the Jews get the Japanese to enter the war?
Your simplistic attempt to explain the causes of the most complex war in history does not stand up to even cursory examination.
And blaming the Jews is just contemptible.
You should be ashamed.

I did not blame "the Jews" it is you who has said that not me, the majority of them were/are victims of a few of their own, just as were/are the rest of humanity!

The "Jews" did not crucify Jesus Christ but those responsible were Jews! (the Pharasees) To say that the "Jews" killed Jesus is collectively incorrect!

The same mentality declares Dot.Com a Nazi because he has a collectors copy of Mein Campf!

You are obviously not well informed upon the subject of Jewish world influence so I declare that it is you who should be ashamed and close this dicussion as pointless!

All I will say is that the subject is very interesting and more compelling the more you try to refute it's reality!

[Oakie]

FYI, ... extracted from 'Mein Kampf'. No particular point ... just a taste. No I don't have a copy and I wouldn't have one in the house ... but if you're going to discuss something, it's sensible to do a bit of research so you don't make a giant twat of yourself. Also, I have no feelings either way towards the Jewish people. I worked with one for a few years and he didn't seem to be part of a plan for world domination.

"The Jews were responsible for bringing negroes into the Rhineland with the ultimate idea of bastardising the white race which they hate and thus lowering its cultural and political level so that the Jew might dominate."

"The Jewish youth lies in wait for hours on end...spying on the unsuspicious German girl he plans to seduce.....he wants to contaminate her blood and remove her from the bosom of her own people. The Jew hates the white race and wants to lower its cultural level so that the Jews might dominate."

"The longer I lived in Vienna, the stronger became my hatred for the promiscuous swarm of foreign peoples which began to batten on that old nursery ground of German culture."

"Only an adequate large space on this earth assures a nation freedom of existence."

"We must eliminate the disproportion between our population and our area...... Some of this land can be obtained from Russia..... We must secure for the German people the land and soil to which they are entitled."

"(The state) must see to it that only the healthy beget children; that there is only one disgrace: despite one's own sickness and deficiencies, to bring children into the world; and one highest honour : to renounce doing so. And conversely it must be considered reprehensible to withhold healthy children from the nation." (This would later develop into Hitler's idea of the Master Race.)

"When you tell a lie, tell big lies. This is what the Jews do, working on the principle, which is quite true in itself, that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility......"

"Whoever wishes to win over the masses must know the key that will open the door to their hearts."

Google is your friend.

[blue rider]

It wouldn't be so bad if he wasn't a German himself.

(Oakie waits for someone to point out that Hitler was actually born in Austria)

well Oakie, this german points out that Hitler was Austrian by birth, and maybe even Half Jewish. He also was a crap artists, and could not have succeeded without the Help of well the likes of all of German Military, the German Industrials, German general populace, Prescott Bush (Bush juniors Grandpa, almost convicted of Treason), William Randolph Hearst, Joseph Kennedy (JFK's father), Charles Lindbergh, John Rockefeller, Andrew Mellon (head of Alcoa, banker, and Secretary of Treasury), DuPont, General Motors, Standard Oil (now Exxon), Ford, ITT, Allen Dulles (later head of the CIA), National City Bank, and General Electric, to name just a few who all at some stage in the early thirties supported the man with the funny mustache and made a killing. IG Farben's US American Holdings included Bayer AG .....but really does it matter?


KDC is neither a lefty, nor a libertarian or conservative, he is a narcissist. And I believe he will do what ever he can to piss in John Keys cuppa even if that is to the detriment of the left parties and this country.

But then the elections are laugh anyways, and it is not about what is good for the country and the people but just to show the other who has the biggest prick.

[98tls]

All this bother over Hitlers book, fuck me theres a far bigger army than Hitler ever had that attend church every sunday the world over and quote what they choose to outta of a blblewhich is full of far worse rantings than Hitler ever wrote.Wouldnt have one in the house.

[pete376403]

Damn right!


Re: the rest of your post regarding big business and corporates...
A lot of similarities ring true with the business practices, shell companies and bank involvements of pre-war and during WW2 Germany.
I'm currently reading about the funding of Germany's war machine and the practices used then are still being used today. Sadly.

Edit: I'll try to track down where I read about the re-publication.

"IBM and the Holocaust" is an interesting read. Ever wondered how the nazis got the lists of jews?

General Motors had a foot in each camp - Chevrolet trucks for the US, Bedford trucks for the Uk, Opel for the Germans. Don't know if they were profiting from any japanese automaker.

Also look for Prescott Bush's links with the nazi banks. As in family of presidents bush II and bush III.