Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement

[Voltaire]

Protectionism was successful? Fuck me were you not paying attention when Ford NZ made the most outrageous shit possible? On the days they weren't on strike... When the govt charged you more to import shit than the shit costs to supply? When the unions on the BNZ site killed the structural steel industry in NZ stone cold dead? Sorry mate, if you think huge import tariffs guaranteeing high wage jobs for producing fuck all of value are the way to go then you slept through most of the 60's and 70's. It was shit. It was shit when the Japanese tried it, it was shit when the Russian tried it and it'll be shit for fucking Africa for everyone if we allow the anti-globalisation rabble to reinvent that particular brand of socialism.

I remember those days.
What we have now is the natural progression from trading.
NZ is just too small to have any say.
There are a lot of cashed up Chinese out there....scary times.
The Chinese have done to the Americans what they did to the Brits post WW2.
Time to sell up and move to Gore.

[Ocean1]

I remember those days.
What we have now is the natural progression from trading.
NZ is just too small to have any say.
There are a lot of cashed up Chinese out there....scary times.
The Chinese have done to the Americans what they did to the Brits post WW2.
Time to sell up and move to Gore.

Aye, trading with the rest of the world. Might as well say living in the real world. Worth noting that the one outcome we don't need is for all of our current trading partners agreeing to deal with each other... except us.

NZ has done outstandingly well in previous agreements, as that wee chart that amused Steven demonstrated. Maybe the smallest voice that can fit at a trade agreement table is still bigger than our population should carry. Although we've had some damned fine people on our team over the years, maybe we earned it.

And the Chinese are simply doing for the cost of capital what they did for cost of labour: selling it for what it's worth to them. Can't really argue. Until they start with the American tactics in isolating a market and monopolising it.

And dude, form Kaitaia to Bluff, this IS Gore.

[gjm]

And the Chinese are simply doing for the cost of capital what they did for cost of labour: selling it for what it's worth to them. Can't really argue. Until they start with the American tactics in isolating a market and monopolising it.

And, on that note... NZ to join new Asian investment bank

[Brian d marge]

And, on that note... NZ to join new Asian investment bank

Repost hahaha sorry
You could see that coming a mile off
Nz joining the bank

Ihave 2 thoughts

What are the powers that be really up to
China russia have gold the west isnt so hot in that area
The real money is in hong kong?

And what backlash can we expect from the jewsa


Follow this smell back and see where it leads ....

As National Security Advisor under Nixon, Kissinger pioneered the policy of détente with the Soviet Union, seeking a relaxation in tensions between the two superpowers. As a part of this strategy, he negotiated the Strategic Arms Limitation Talks (culminating in the SALT I treaty) and the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty with Leonid Brezhnev, General Secretary of the Soviet Communist Party. Negotiations about strategic disarmament were originally supposed to start under the Johnson Administration but were postponed in protest to the invasion by Warsaw Pact troops of Czechoslovakia in August 1968.



Kissinger, shown here with Zhou Enlai and Mao Zedong, negotiated rapprochement with the People's Republic of China.


Kissinger sought to place diplomatic pressure on the Soviet Union. He made two trips to the People's Republic of China in July and October 1971 (the first of which was made in secret) to confer with Premier Zhou Enlai, then in charge of Chinese foreign policy.^[21] According to Kissinger's book, "The White House Years", the first secret China trip was arranged through Pakistan's diplomatic and Presidential involvement that paved the way to initial vital contact with China since the Americans were unable to communicate directly with the Chinese leaders because of earlier cold relations. Kissinger would show his support for the regime in Beijing by supporting their actions during the unrest which included the Tiananmen Square Massacre.^[22]
This paved the way for the groundbreaking 1972 summit between Nixon, Zhou, and Communist Party of China Chairman Mao Zedong, as well as the formalization of relations between the two countries, ending 23 years of diplomatic isolation and mutual hostility. The result was the formation of a tacit strategic anti-Soviet alliance between China and the United States.


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[gjm]

Corporate lobbying in the US has been successful (doubtless several millions of dollars has changed hands) and the Fast Track Authority has been approved.

This is a big step towards the TPPA.

In the meantime, even Joe American is getting angry as they see this as US workers being sold out to increase corporate profit.

[awa355]

I read something today that said if the TPPA came in, that parallel importing would become illegal. (amongst other things).

[Scuba_Steve]

I read something today that said if the TPPA came in, that parallel importing would become illegal. (amongst other things).

Good for the consumers right

[Brian d marge]

I wonder where the data came from

Peewwwww

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[blue rider]

saw this

For those not familiar with Keynian English I offer a translation:

“From what I’ve seen at the moment…”
oh hai journalist! I’m good. How is TPPA?

“…if in theory we froze time…”
Well what I say next has no context, so

“… and concluded the deal…”
if something premature and reckless ended well for me,

“…as I see it, it’s net positive for New Zealand…”
then my life would continue along pretty good.

“…. But it wouldn’t be doing enough for dairy…”
Even our most loyal supporters would be well and truely rat-fucked, though,

“… for us to be comfortable…”
and we’d be scared we might not make it to the airport, alive,

“… and we would like to do some more there.”
but if we did we’d feel really good again, fleeing your pathetic housing bubble, with matching ruined economy, about to pop.

“…There are a lot of other sectors…”
The World is a big place,

“… that would be very happy about it.”
and extradition from warm tax havens is never assured. Bai!


dairy, who the fuck needs it
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11349072
http://www.3news.co.nz/politics/gros...#axzz3dxUbIXAK


Dairy in TPPA talks not where we would like it to be...or net positive

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU150...y-like-key.htm

[Brian d marge]

saw this

For those not familiar with Keynian English I offer a translation:

“From what I’ve seen at the moment


dairy, who the fuck needs it
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11349072
http://www.3news.co.nz/politics/gros...#axzz3dxUbIXAK


Dairy in TPPA talks not where we would like it to be...or net positive

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU150...y-like-key.htm

No NZ
You have got this the wrong way round
Dumbarse

WE tell you if you can join tarriffs or not


Jewnighted states of jewmerica



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[Brian d marge]

Trade Minister Tim Groser

If you want to put a face to scum .... here it is and
A Quote that earns a French haircut would be;

The 'stop the world, we want to get off' crowd, the anti-trade ideological crowd will explain that this is going to cause the civilisation as we know it when it comes out, but we'll be able to carry our case with serious people."

Wnker

[mashman]

Trade Minister Tim Groser

If you want to put a face to scum .... here it is and
A Quote that earns a French haircut would be;

The 'stop the world, we want to get off' crowd, the anti-trade ideological crowd will explain that this is going to cause the civilisation as we know it when it comes out, but we'll be able to carry our case with serious people."

Wnker

Musical interlude

[Katman]

http://www.disclose.tv/news/sold_out...ampaign=buffer

[Brian d marge]

bend over sheepies .....

Snip;
Uncle Joe Speaks ;
With the US "re-balance strategy" in the Asia Pacific region, "partners like New Zealand have never been more consequential".
Biden said nowhere was that more clear "than the remarkable progress we've made together on the Trans-Pacific Partnership".
On Monday, Obama secured a major win in the United States Senate when it approved legislation to grant him the power to negotiate trade deals and send them on a fast track through Congress.
The vote was a big step forward and put the prospect of the 12-nation TPP deal into the home straight.

[sugilite:Me]

Well, this TPP thing must be real awesome for the unprecedented occurrence of a vice president of the USA addressing us. - Well thats what they are hoping we will think
Personally for me, it raises a lot more red flags that this is evil at work.