Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement

[Brian d marge]

its bad juju
trust me

Stephen

ps that video link is good

heres another http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9883535/Labour-on-the-fence-about-trade-deal


Stephen

[Voltaire]

Strange mix of countries or am I missing something. Is it the Yanks trying to shore up its fading empire before China gets up to speed?
Looking at our trading figures, the Americans have dropped behind China.
I thought we sucked up to China these days?

[Oakie]

I thought we sucked up to China these days?

Nah, we just sell them shit-loads of our produce. John Key was at pains earlier in the week to say we cannot put all our eggs in the Chinese basket though and must continue to develop trade with other countries which i guess the TPPA does with many countries all at the same time.

[Shadowjack]

Probably our gummint having a win-place bet, seemingly the price being our nation's sovereignty.

[Voltaire]

Probably our gummint having a win-place bet, seemingly the price being our nation's sovereignty.

Key wants to ditch the Union bit of the flag and replace it with ...stars/stripes or " a bit saying " Your Flag Here"

[oldrider]

The flag issue is only a political diversion (a circus) Key surprised me when he pulled that one out of the bag, they are obviously up to something devious IMO.

He didn't need to do that when he has Dot.Com and the left creating all the circus that he needs to divert attention! ... Watch this space!

My main concern is anything to do with big phama, they are ruthless dangerous bastards IMHO.

[Oakie]

The flag issue is only a political diversion (a circus) Key surprised me when he pulled that one out of the bag, they are obviously up to something devious IMO.

Well he's put that one to bed now by saying referendum on it sometime after the next election. I think the flag thing is just his personal pet project in the same way that the Gold Card was Winnie's.

[oldrider]

Interesting that the very first thing he did on attaining office was the reintroduction of the honours system and appearing to be a loyalist.

Now he seems to be pandering to the breakaway republican fraternity by fiddling with the flag issue!

Is he confused or a cunninglinguist with a foot in whichever camp he can gain a little political traction?

[gjm]

TPPA may be good for New Zealand, but it'll do little, nothing or be bad for New Zealanders. Big business - y'know, the off-shore, non-tax-paying kind - are all over this as it allows them to pretty much create a corporate 'state' in which taxes aren't required. It'd almost be interesting to see how that turned out, but the costto the individual is just too high.

US Government is pretty much bought and paid for these days. IMHO, the TPPA would see that extend to other countries including NZ.

And let's not get started on the the pharma, Monsanto/Bayer, oil and banking implications...

[mashman]

Interesting that the very first thing he did on attaining office was the reintroduction of the honours system and appearing to be a loyalist.

Now he seems to be pandering to the breakaway republican fraternity by fiddling with the flag issue!

Is he confused or a cunninglinguist with a foot in whichever camp he can gain a little political traction?

Do rhetorical questions require question marks?

[Brian d marge]

Dont get distracted , the TPPA is bad karma

Juju or aurora

Just start sending letters to your mp saying no dont do this, nothing flash , dear Sir; don’t sign the TPPA. regards pissed off

Stephen

letters to MPs are free-post

[oldrider]

Do rhetorical questions require question marks?

I don't know anymore Gordon ... I am fast un-learning all that I learned at school etc ... tis the AGE syndrome!

[mashman]

I don't know anymore Gordon ... I am fast un-learning all that I learned at school etc ... tis the AGE syndrome!

.... hang on, shit, that doesn't bode well for me expecting a long life if that's an indicator.

[mashman]

Dont get distracted , the TPPA is bad karma

Juju or aurora

Just start sending letters to your mp saying no dont do this, nothing flash , dear Sir; don’t sign the TPPA. regards pissed off

Stephen

letters to MPs are free-post

It needs to be implemented.

I'm up for halting the protesting and letting it be implemented coz there are some folk who believe that it won't affect them. The only way for them to be proven wrong, other than the wife removing nuptials, is to experience it first hand. Let it come. Meanwhile, I'd rather go shopping with you for pointy things that rapidly fly through the air in a chosen direction.

[Brian d marge]

It needs to be implemented.

I'm up for halting the protesting and letting it be implemented coz there are some folk who believe that it won't affect them. The only way for them to be proven wrong, other than the wife removing nuptials, is to experience it first hand. Let it come. Meanwhile, I'd rather go shopping with you for pointy things that rapidly fly through the air in a chosen direction.

Have the pointy things , just need 100 inch plasma tv

It will happen anyways ,

Stephen

fk that was the quickest earthquake in history Bang and she was over ... dont worry homebrew all ok !