Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement

[scrivy]

It increasingly seems a very short shitty stick with two shitty ends.

You mean like......

[scrivy]

I put all mine under the mattress.

Bullshit!

I've seen your deposits on top of the mattress......
My spare beds never been the same.........

[Brian d marge]

Failing to pay tax is Illegal, Using Legal means to pay less tax is Legal.

The same legal means that are open to you and I - if you are really upset about it, by all means talk to an accountant at ways to reduce the amount of tax you pay.

If the problem is those legal means shouldn't exist (and there are decent arguments to be made that they shouldn't) then petition your local MPs to get the Tax loopholes closed.

but complaining about someone doing something that is perfectly legal by simply saying 'well they shouldn't do it' is silly - as a suggestion - if enough people exploited the loopholes and the Government was really hurting for cash - then maybe there would be more of an incentive to do something about them.

yes your are completely right

but I when I read this , I cant decide which of the 2 words I am thinking of I should use .


but pictures may work .......

[Brian d marge]

The futures looking bright ....

White Van Man is toast ,.....as are;

Those silly fkers who think they run the show.. their power debased ..( insert big lol )

https://www.torproject.org/

[mashman]

Like I said last time you rooted that out: What's its cost to market?

Until you can show that you've got no idea what the price should be.

Affordable healthcare for all = lives. Just like I said last time. You're not very good at this game are you. Whatever happened to that bright eyed lad, rough around the edges but with stars in his eyes. Pristine edges and $ in your eyes eh

I've shown you, I merely summarised the article and the logical and obvious outcome to the tack being chosen on our (society) behalf. Carry on buffoon.

[Ocean1]

Not quite, it is safe to assume the drug is hugely overpriced. That drug has been around sixty odd years, it's not new. The papers mention that is used in AIDS cases but that's just the press doing their sensationalist thing. It has been used for other people with reduced immunity such as infants and people on chemotherapy for a long time.

Just a few years ago the drug cost US$1.00 per pill but the price has risen as the company that produces it has been bought and sold several times. The only explanation I've seen for the increases was that each successive new owner has upped the price. The latest effort by far the largest at $5000%.

Shkreli is a greedy little prick, this is not the first time he has done something similar. He is reportedly involved in a criminal investigation as well as multiple civil actions.

The cost to market the pills is almost irrelevant in the overall scheme of things. If you want to know more just Google "5000%"

Oh I'm under no illusion that the industry is free of arseholes, why would anyone expect them to be?

But here's the thing: they own that product. Without the original R&D + associated massive compliance and legal fees it simply wouldn't exist. Which, like it or not means that they get to charge what they want for it, same as you get to decide the price you want for your bike, should you sell it.

Should they charge whatever they want? Well, they can only do so because most of the world agrees that they own the product by way of patent agreements. So personally I see the protection afforded them by such agreements is a service to producers, one which should be revocable under certain conditions. Like if some arsewipe is taking undue advantage of that service and the monopoly it entails to outrageously overcharge for his product.

Which is where the "cost to market" comes in. In the absence of otherwise natural competition there's nothin against which to compare prices, and no pressure on the sole supplier not to simply cost-plus the whole operation. So you have to guess, "what's the real cost-to-market for that particular product?", (which involves forensic accountancy, and the sort of arithmetic not taught to simple engineers). That, plus a reasonable return on investment is what it should be selling for.

Given me druthers I'd quite like the CC to spend a fair bit more time investigating monopolies, including those protected by patents, on the simple basis that ALL monopolies are counterproductive in the long run.

Trouble is, like most political feetballs the details surrounding the costing and pricing is a deal more complex than most can follow, as evidence the Herceptin debacle. Hence all the noise from the special interest groups, informed via carefully cobbled press releases and demanding someone does sommat about teh carnage. Like the Herceptin debacle.

Also, (to put a slightly practical take on it), if criminal activities are seen to be involved, then why wouldn't you consider any associated patents forfeit as proceeds of crime and kick it into the public domain. Disincentivise the arsewipes enough to keep 'em honest?

[Ocean1]

Affordable healthcare for all = lives. Just like I said last time. You're not very good at this game are you. Whatever happened to that bright eyed lad, rough around the edges but with stars in his eyes. Pristine edges and $ in your eyes eh

I've shown you, I merely summarised the article and the logical and obvious outcome to the tack being chosen on our (society) behalf. Carry on buffoon.

Oh fuck off you silly little twerp.

[mashman]

Oh fuck off you silly little twerp.

I will most certainly not you blind old scared white muthafucka. Ignoring the reality of others is all fine and well... until they can't afford to be herd immunized that is

[Akzle]

Again - if there is a way to do it that is legal - then its all okay. If you have a problem with people using the laws to benefit themselves, then change the law.

ahyes. That minor and easily achievable little thing.... Unless you're not some rich white jew fuck....

[Brian d marge]

ahyes. That minor and easily achievable little thing.... Unless you're not some rich white jew fuck....

If you add " er" I qualify for two of those criterion

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[Akzle]

Failing to pay tax is Illegal, Using Legal means to pay less tax is Legal.

The same legal means that are open to you and I - if you are really upset about it, by all means talk to an accountant at ways to reduce the amount of tax you pay.

If the problem is those legal means shouldn't exist (and there are decent arguments to be made that they shouldn't) then petition your local MPs to get the Tax loopholes closed.

but complaining about someone doing something that is perfectly legal by simply saying 'well they shouldn't do it' is silly - as a suggestion - if enough people exploited the loopholes and the Government was really hurting for cash - then maybe there would be more of an incentive to do something about them.

hahahahahahaha. Naiive little demmon.


Can =/= should.


(will replace with symbols when at a fucken pc, unless some kindly mod cares to.)

[Voltaire]

ahyes. That minor and easily achievable little thing.... Unless you're not some rich white jew fuck....

I sense that you feel Jews and Whites have deprived you of greatness?

[Katman]

I sense that you feel Jews and Whites have deprived you of greatness?

Not greatness - just money.

[Brian d marge]

Not greatness - just money.

Damn i i thought it was just my wife who deprived me of money



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[Akzle]

I sense that you feel Jews and Whites have deprived you of greatness?

no. I'm great.