Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement

[Brian d marge]

So I saw Helen Clark supporting the National government pursuing TPPA. Said we're much better off in it than not. Discuss.

when you realize they are all the same
Tarred with the same American brush
Jail- or Shooting may be a better option than 1st past the post
or M M M pp whatever

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[Ocean1]

So I saw Helen Clark supporting the National government pursuing TPPA. Said we're much better off in it than not. Discuss.

History demonstrates that any country with significant trade barriers, (self imposed or otherwise) rapidly deteriorates.

If the choice is a trade agreement involving NZ or a trade agreement not including NZ, (and that's exactly what the choice is) then it's a no-brainer: Get the best deal you can, but do the deal.

Although... maybe not. Iron curtains produce deep and prolonged depressions, Bamboo curtains cause immense hardship and retrenchment to near feudal conditions, but who knows, maybe a Ponga curtain would work to maintain NZ's status as one of the worlds top performing economies.

[Brian d marge]

History demonstrates that any country with significant trade barriers, (self imposed or otherwise) rapidly deteriorates.

If the choice is a trade agreement involving NZ or a trade agreement not including NZ, (and that's exactly what the choice is) then it's a no-brainer: Get the best deal you can, but do the deal.

Although... maybe not. Iron curtains produce deep and prolonged depressions, Bamboo curtains cause immense hardship and retrenchment to near feudal conditions, but who knows, maybe a Ponga curtain would work to maintain NZ's status as one of the worlds top performing economies.

What kind of kurtains did cuba have

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[Scuba_Steve]

So I saw Helen Clark supporting the National government pursuing TPPA. Said we're much better off in it than not. Discuss.

Nothing to discuss, she did her job, she brought the US into the TPPA & she's got her comfortable high paying UN job to show for it.

[Swoop]

So I saw Helen Clark supporting the National government pursuing TPPA. Said we're much better off in it than not. Discuss.

She had to say that, as she initiated it (as a much smaller version of what we are being offered now, when it involved New Zealand, Chile, Singapore and Brunei.).

[Ocean1]

What kind of kurtains did cuba have

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Made out of Russia's second world rusty old nuke silo shells.

But there's the thing: nobody really gives a shit what politics causes a nation to go sulk in their bedroom, it's enough to note that their standard of living plummeted as a direct result.

Now, do yo want to play with the grownups? Or is the bogeymans too scary?

[oldrider]

There's the thing: nobody really gives a shit what politics causes a nation to go sulk in their bedroom, it's enough to note that their standard of living plummeted as a direct result.

Are we to assume that their standard of living will now rise or will that only be for the usual small percentage? - It will be interesting to watch!

We have a ring side seat - if we should live long enough!

[Ocean1]

She had to say that, as she initiated it (as a much smaller version of what we are being offered now, when it involved New Zealand, Chile, Singapore and Brunei.).

And China. Don't forget China.

What year did she do that deal again?



Maybe we should just buy Pfizer outright.

[Brian d marge]

Made out of Russia's second world rusty old nuke silo shells.

But there's the thing: nobody really gives a shit what politics causes a nation to go sulk in their bedroom, it's enough to note that their standard of living plummeted as a direct result.

Now, do yo want to play with the grownups? Or is the bogeymans too scary?

On which side are you

Trade is fine

We need trade

Capatalism and all its flaws added to the gordon geckos

We . . ( may I include you ) dont need

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[Ocean1]

Are we to assume that their standard of living will now rise or will that only be for the usual small percentage? - It will be interesting to watch!

We have a ring side seat - if we should live long enough!

Too early to tell. I don't expect much from what is still, after all a communist state.

Interesting comparing Cuba with what is supposedly a communist state with some of the worlds most open trading Policies...



http://incentiveseverywhere.com/2014...ard-of-living/

[Ocean1]

On which side are you

Trade is fine

We need trade

Capatalism and all its flaws added to the gordon geckos

We . . ( may I include you ) dont need

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The side responsible for the single most massive improvement in across-the-board living standards in the planet's history.

Where's that map of ancient socialist states with economies putting their citizens on top of the living standards leaderboard?

[Brian d marge]

The side responsible for the single most massive improvement in across-the-board living standards in the planet's history.

Where's that map of ancient socialist states with economies putting their citizens on top of the living standards leaderboard?

Imagine the living standards if we had socialism


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[oldrider]

Imagine the living standards if we had socialism

Well we have but it's combined in multi-tier systems - them and us - we by the way are are really lucky to be us - however you look at it!

[Ocean1]

Imagine the living standards if we had socialism


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Don't have to, there's no shortage of failed socialist states to demonstrate that it's not a viable doctrine.

[Brian d marge]

Don't have to, there's no shortage of failed socialist states to demonstrate that it's not a viable doctrine.

Show me

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