Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement

[mashman]

Ah, no, that's very much get fucked.

And they've got a right to expect me to make 'em happy, eh? Tell them get fucked too.

Or you could, y'know: earn it.

They do. They belong to those that earn what they want. Coz money.

Yeah, you give that vibe.

Nope.

Caveman.

You give that vibe too. Coz money.

[gjm]

Meanwhile, back on topic...

The full text of the TPPA (as it applies to NZ) was released on January 16th, a couple of weeks or so before it was ratified and signed.

Since then, a number of people have read the entire transcript, and not one single person among those people have said it is a good idea. Several sections of the TPPA were released before this (Wikileaks, et al) and again, the people who have read this do not condone signing.

So, the government says sign, and backs this with their 'analysts', none of whom are known to the public. The people the public do know (of) who have inspected the document unanimously say it's a bad idea. (And that's worldwide - not just in lil' ol' NZ.)

Even several US Presidential candidates (who I hope have suitably qualified advisors, but I wouldn't bet on it) say they will veto the TPPA.

So... Who's correct? Those who are presumably qualified but have refused to discuss it and blithely insist it is 'a good thing,' or those known to be suitably qualified who have read and analysed it and say it is not?

[Madness]

A Canadian perspective that all sounds quite familiar.

http://canadians.org/tpp

[pete376403]

Is that the same "privileged" rich pricks get?

Nothing to do with any value they've actually contributed?

Doesn't it occur to you that the behaviour any govt policy rewards is the behaviour that generates income? Y'know, where the money comes from to pay for all the shit that doesn't happen otherwise?

Jesus Christ on a crutch, why anyone bothers conducting actual business with prevailing attitudes like that has got me fucked.

Cant comment on JK since he hasn't retired from politics yet, but for example, Dubya Bush has "earned" $15 million since leaving the White house. Tell me about the value he contributed to anyone but defense contractors, Halliburton, etc.

[Brian d marge]

I'll leave kb for 15 k. Promise

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[mashman]

I'll leave kb for 15 k. Promise

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Worth every $. 20k for me.

[Brian d marge]

Worth every $. 20k for me.

There is is a decimal point in there you basket

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[mashman]

There is is a decimal point in there you basket

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... pessimist

[mashman]

Angela Merkel surprised by massive protest march against TTIP in Berlin... I love the use of the word fair. For who?

[gjm]

Angela Merkel surprised by massive protest march against TTIP in Berlin... I love the use of the word fair. For who?

I love the word 'surprised' in the title!

[mashman]

I love the word 'surprised' in the title!

... bonus points

[mashman]

Oh and did anyone see any form of hoopla over this really important life changing agreement?

Yeah, but... to 2:00 is enough... but by all means carry on if ya need to.

[Woodman]

Oh and did anyone see any form of hoopla over this really important life changing agreement?

Yeah, but... to 2:00 is enough... but by all means carry on if ya need to.

Thats some good shit there Sums up nicely why I don't watch the news any more.

[Ocean1]

Cant comment on JK since he hasn't retired from politics yet, but for example, Dubya Bush has "earned" $15 million since leaving the White house. Tell me about the value he contributed to anyone but defense contractors, Halliburton, etc.

I must admit I'm also shocked that someone who the majority of voters in the largest economy in the world chose to manage the administration of their affairs turns out to have marketable qualities.

I mean, who'da picked that?

[pete376403]

I must admit I'm also shocked that someone who the majority of the Supreme Court in the largest economy in the world chose to manage the administration of their affairs turns out to have marketable qualities.

I mean, who'da picked that?

Fixed that for ya