Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement

[scrivy]

The thing that pisses me off about articles like this is the phrase 'the Obama regime'. Other similar phrases littered throughout any similar pieces are 'Obama sanctioned', 'Obama allowed', and suchlike.

I hear ya.
But as he is the figurehead, the buck stops with him - and the policies are ultimately from him - he signs them off, even though the policies are really from corporate elites, oligarchs etc.... That's why they call him a puppet.... he's fucked no matter what he wants to do..... He's their bitch!

[Scuba_Steve]

I hear ya.
But as he is the figurehead, the buck stops with him - and the policies are ultimately from him - he signs them off, even though the policies are really from corporate elites, oligarchs etc.... That's why they call him a puppet.... he's fucked no matter what he wants to do..... He's their bitch!

Yep & aside from that a "face" needs to be put on things for people to direct their views towards; if you just said "the system" thats all well & good but who do you direct your anger/praise towards?, so they put a "face" on it Just like Key's "responsible" for everything here

[SPman]

I love the irony. It's all about the American economy, yet they throw jobs overseas and threaten to pull out. It's a lose lose that none of these so called experts seem to grasp.

Rather than post a quote - here's the whole article.......

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014...craig-roberts/

[mashman]

Rather than post a quote - here's the whole article.......

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014...craig-roberts/

Repost (scrivy popped it in there copied by infowars)... Seriously, I think the've completely flipped as they haven't got a fuckin clue what to do to avoid the train wreck that looks to be rapidly approaching. It's as though what once worked was the best that they had... and what's worse, instead of admitting that things are fucked they'd rather stick to what they know and have a war as that's always good for business and if all else fails we can have a debt jubilee. Priceless given that what once worked doesn't work any more. Tis embarrassing to think that I'm the same species.

[scrivy]

It's as though what once worked was the best that they had... and what's worse, instead of admitting that things are fucked they'd rather stick to what they know and have a war as that's always good for business and if all else fails we can have a debt jubilee.

They have no choice but to go to war now.... there is no other way to get the debt monkey off their back.
If they default, they lose everything - and they will internally combust - (which would be the best for the rest of the world).

A default would mean no 770 odd US military bases around the world......
Probably bring about world peace...... at least there wouldn't be any provocations in those areas.....

[oldrider]

They have no choice but to go to war now.... there is no other way to get the debt monkey off their back.
If they default, they lose everything - and they will internally combust - (which would be the best for the rest of the world).

A default would mean no 770 odd US military bases around the world......
Probably bring about world peace...... at least there wouldn't be any provocations in those areas.....

Imagine the unemployment if there was no military!

[scrivy]

Imagine the unemployment if there was no military!

Probably less people would die if there was no military than if there was........

[mashman]

They have no choice but to go to war now.... there is no other way to get the debt monkey off their back.
If they default, they lose everything - and they will internally combust - (which would be the best for the rest of the world).

A default would mean no 770 odd US military bases around the world......
Probably bring about world peace...... at least there wouldn't be any provocations in those areas.....

I can't see anyone other than America being that stupid... well, maybe Israel. If war starts, it won't be a long war as I believe that the people of those country's would replace their governments as quickly as possible. Well, hopefully that is.

Imagine the unemployment if there was no military!

Aye, something no financial system can deal with

[awa355]

It's hard to believe that one country can believe they have an absolute right to control everyone's ( virtually ) finances, on the planet.

The arrogance of the bastards is staggering.

[gjm]

I can't see anyone other than America being that stupid... well, maybe Israel. If war starts, it won't be a long war as I believe that the people of those country's would replace their governments as quickly as possible. Well, hopefully that is.

If you've seen any of the frankly ludicrous rubbish, and almost sociopathic diatribe being spouted by (certainly) the Republican party representatives, then like me you would be wondering exactly what it is that the US public sees in these people. There's absolutely no guarantee they would do anything... Similarly, I wonder if the Kiwi electorate would take any action against a government that signs the TPPA.

[scrivy]

Similarly, I wonder if the Kiwi electorate would take any action against a government that signs the TPPA.

APATHY.....
LACK OF INTEREST....
DESENSITISED....
DETACHMENT....
DISPASSIONATE.....

They'd do F'all I'd say.... (They'd just ask for another beer....)

[mashman]

If you've seen any of the frankly ludicrous rubbish, and almost sociopathic diatribe being spouted by (certainly) the Republican party representatives, then like me you would be wondering exactly what it is that the US public sees in these people. There's absolutely no guarantee they would do anything... Similarly, I wonder if the Kiwi electorate would take any action against a government that signs the TPPA.

It doesn't take all of them, just those who are watching. Primarily because those currently not giving a shit will continue to be such irregardless. Who knows, perhaps those who have long since given up will stand up again. But yeah, given the current response there ain't much of that on view. It only takes a few thousand.

[Voltaire]

Isn't this just a replay of the end of the British Empire but with Americans?
WW1 pretty much finished off GB as a world power.

[Brian d marge]

Empathy is the word

Those upstairs lack empathy to the point of almost evil. One could say
They are not stupid thats for sure , there is money to be made

I dont want to be any part of it

Stephen


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[SPman]

Empathy is the word

Those upstairs lack empathy to the point of almost evil. One could say
They are not stupid thats for sure , there is money to be made

I dont want to be any part of it

Stephen


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Psychopathy rules as the scum rise to the surface......