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    Deaths

    From 1st Jan . 14 plus a poor chap @ Omaha on sat ...15 .

    Compared with 9 this time last year.

    Is this a case of of us riders not doing enough to remain safe on the roads, or this a spike in the stats...ie will we see a reduction the following year ?

    What can we riders do to not become statistics ?

    Condolences to all whom know the riders.


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    comparing the death toll just to last year is a waste of time imo. its going to fluctuate year to year. whats the average over the last year as a yearly total?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricardohardo View Post
    What can we riders do to not become statistics ?
    Ride like your life depends on it.

    Funnily enough it does.

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    Compulsory ongoing training for everybody on the roads.

    Failing that, ban all private vehicles so we can all die of something else...boredom probably.

    As an aside, and no disrespect to anybody...suicide by bike, could that be a thing? Riding irresposibly 'cos you don't really care if you get home alive or not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tigertim20 View Post
    comparing the death toll just to last year is a waste of time imo. its going to fluctuate year to year. whats the average over the last year as a yearly total?

    http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/road-deaths/toll.html

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    Do these stats include quad's??

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    Not if it is a workplace...

    Quote Originally Posted by Stampy View Post
    Do these stats include quad's??
    http://www.business.govt.nz/worksafe...atalities-2013

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    What the statistics don't say is how many accidents are the riders own fault or just bad luck eg the fault of something/someone else.
    Are you really sure you'd like to see that information?

    I'd hazard a guess that it wouldn't make us look good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Are you really sure you'd like to see that information?

    I'd hazard a guess that it wouldn't make us look good.
    Trust me, I have. It doesn't
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricardohardo View Post
    From 1st Jan . 14 plus a poor chap @ Omaha on sat ...15 .

    Compared with 9 this time last year.

    Is this a case of of us riders not doing enough to remain safe on the roads, or this a spike in the stats...ie will we see a reduction the following year ?

    What can we riders do to not become statistics ?

    Condolences to all whom know the riders.


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    Before you start quoting meaningless stats. Tell us how many kms were actually ridden in the same period, and where.

    15/9 = 1.66'. If there were 2/3 more kms ridden than last year then this figure is expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Are you really sure you'd like to see that information?

    I'd hazard a guess that it wouldn't make us look good.
    Yes, but even so it may be sobering for some and get them to pull their head in, maybe.

    I honestly don't care what the stats say as long as they reflect the true situation, tell the whole story and aren't doctored by anyone with an agenda - them or us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    Before you start quoting meaningless stats. Tell us how many kms were actually ridden in the same period, and where.

    15/9 = 1.66'. If there were 2/3 more kms ridden than last year then this figure is expected.
    These are NZTA stats


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    Quote Originally Posted by ricardohardo View Post
    These are NZTA stats.
    I'm not disputing the numbers. My assertion is only that they are meaningless without the context in which they belong.
    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)

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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    I'm not disputing the numbers. My assertion is only that they are meaningless without the context in which they belong.
    x2.

    I could well say that the increase in deaths is obviously a direct result of the lower speeding tolerance campaign by the NZ Police for all the info you've provided (Idiot disclaimer: I'm not)

    I guess your heart's in the right place but you can't really draw any conclusions from those numbers without the details surrounding each death.

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