Who You Calling a Pig
Yea that the one. I know it makes bugger all difference (well defiantly to me. I would have to turn up to score points) but with out dragging this down "that" route. It frustrates me when process are not followed, and to the best of my knowledge it was not advertised.Originally Posted by Bert
For the record Qkkid was in my bed, not the other way round
Anorak
I think it was just to pull it into lines with the other classes, it might be a FIM thing, maybe a prelude into buckets making it into Motogp...... GP4 and GP5 anyone........
Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken
Why Not???: MNZ975.
Don't get me started about due process.... I'm keeping positive, but looking at the proposed rule changes none of these changes have been notified...
Humm time for more emails and no replies (shit did it type that)!!!
Hardcore Biker
It went through so just like the big bikes, you can now run decent pump fuel at half the price of av gas.
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No8 Wire Extraordinaire
Sorry I'm missing something here Rob, what do you mean decent pump gas?
And where are you buying $4 Av gas? Do you have to buy the fuel can every time?
Don't you look at my accountant.
He's the only one I've got.
Forum whore
More likely to happen to Buckets than any other of the bullshit classes in NZ.I think it was just to pull it into lines with the other classes, it might be a FIM thing, maybe a prelude into buckets making it into Motogp...... GP4 and GP5 anyone........
Was worth a crack
Damn you caught us Dave, it was all a have so we could get E10 legalised
Oh no wait its 165 Neilson St just as it has always been.
Hardcore Biker
What do others have to pay for Av Gas?165 Neilson St just as it has always been.
Anyway who cares, now everyone has a wider range of choice and the 2T boys can now legally pre mix oil into their fuel and maybe use a dash of Acetone if they have trouble with the oil separating out.
And for those that might think to ask, no, Acetone is not an Alcohol, it is a Ketone.
Alex
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No8 Wire Extraordinaire
erm about $2.80 I think, its been a while. Depending on how the rule is written currently & I'm too lazy to relook, but back a while it looked illegal to add oil to the mix as its an 'additive'
Don't you look at my accountant.
He's the only one I've got.
Low personal B.M.E.P.
All well and good - rule 24.2.1 is deleted. BUT that does not help as there seems to be no follow up as to exactly what can be used..
Unless/until Appendix E is amended - or rule 10.17 is altered to put buckets in the appropriate section, there's no clear direction...
i know one GN at least which would go very well on Methanol....
Hardcore Biker
10.17.1 The following classes shall be restricted to petrol having maximum
characteristics not exceeding “Avgas or Unleaded FIM” as defined in Appendix
E. Motocross, Stadium/Supercross, Miniature TT, Trials, Enduro, Cross Country,
ATV, Stockbike, Solo, All Road Race classes except those classes listed in
10.17.2 and 10.17.3. All Mini and Junior classes.
I see words in there like "all road race classes" which F4 and F5 (Miniature Road Racing) are a part of, "being restricted to petrol as defined by appendix E".
The rule book is a bit fragmented and confusing with its different sections, but it looks to me that F4 & F5 are clearly covered by the term "all road race classes" and are restricted to petrol as defined in appendix E. Its only the specific RR classes that are named that are able to use a fuel other than petrol and that fuel is defined in E too.
Alex.
Factual Facts are based on real Fact and Universal Truths. Alternative Facts by definition are not based on Truth.
Why Not???: MNZ975.
Actually Alex, there is already separation within MOMS between road racing and miniature road racing. With this separation (and supplementary rules to apply to miniature road racing) means that there is a hole. Don't just assume what MOMS should mean; it is as read and as written and structured...
Someone famous once said, best cheating is finding the holes in the rule book. While we can re litigate the spirt of the class vs. rules: we are governed by the rules and race GPs accordingly.
Brent
Forum whore
Hi Bert, I need your help with an explanation. I have been watching this thread, but don't understand what MOMS is, or where to find it in the rule book.totally deficient I know ...
Why Not???: MNZ975.
Manual of Motorsport. Or now "general competition rules"... But gCR doesn't quite have the same ring to it....Hi Bert, I need your help with an explanation. I have been watching this thread, but don't understand what MOMS is, or where to find it in the rule book.
http://www.mnz.co.nz/regulations/rules/general-rules
It use to arrive in hard copy... So I'm still stuck in the dark ages and showing my age.
And you always do what your Mum (Mom) tells you to do...
In the riders seat
Sounds like a great idea, Methanol for two valve four strokes
"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."
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