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    The Principle

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    Load of shit.

    The "principle" here is the Corpernican principle which is that the Earth is not in a central, specially favored position in the universe. This film argues the opposite.

    The dude who made it is a holocaust denying American Catholic named Robert Sungenis with a "Ph.D" in Religious Studies from an unaccredited distance "university" in Vanuatu. He self published his bullshit back in the 80s in a book titled "Galileo Was Wrong: The Church Was Right".

    He's managed to mislead some actual scientists in order to get them on camera and then proceeded to manipulate their words so that it sounds like they support his view. They don't.

    There is a non zero probability that Earth is in a special place in the universe. But it is vanishingly small and you would have to be an absolute fuckwit to buy into any of this shit after even the briefest of considerations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender EnZed View Post
    Load of shit.

    The "principle" here is the Corpernican principle which is that the Earth is not in a central, specially favored position in the universe. This film argues the opposite.

    The dude who made it is a holocaust denying American Catholic named Robert Sungenis with a "Ph.D" in Religious Studies from an unaccredited distance "university" in Vanuatu. He self published his bullshit back in the 80s in a book titled "Galileo Was Wrong: The Church Was Right".

    He's managed to mislead some actual scientists in order to get them on camera and then proceeded to manipulate their words so that it sounds like they support his view. They don't.

    There is a non zero probability that Earth is in a special place in the universe. But it is vanishingly small and you would have to be an absolute fuckwit to buy into any of this shit after even the briefest of considerations.
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    Whats God been up since he created the Universe?
    DeMyer's Laws - an argument that consists primarily of rambling quotes isn't worth bothering with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    Whats God been up since he created the Universe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender EnZed View Post
    He self published his bullshit back in the 80s in a book titled "Galileo Was Wrong: The Church Was Right".
    The title is such a mis-understanding of what the Church said about Galileo's work that it demonstrates to me the complete idiocy of his work ..
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    Kate Mulgrew moved rapidly to distance herself from this utter BullShit too.

    Best thing you can do if you know someone who supports this geocentric nonsense is to simply not engage about it. Don't discuss, don't engage, you aren't going to change their "mind" (though it would be a stretch to imagine that a geocentrist even has one) and they will Gish Gallop you to an early grave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    Whats God been up since he created the Universe?
    "She", you idiot. Wear gumboots and carry a lightning rod. Please note people, it's a "lightning" rod, not a "lightening" rod. The concept of a "lightening rod" makes my brain fire off in so many directions at once that I can't form a coherent position on what one may actually be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender EnZed View Post
    Load of shit.

    The "principle" here is the Corpernican principle which is that the Earth is not in a central, specially favored position in the universe. This film argues the opposite.

    The dude who made it is a holocaust denying American Catholic named Robert Sungenis with a "Ph.D" in Religious Studies from an unaccredited distance "university" in Vanuatu. He self published his bullshit back in the 80s in a book titled "Galileo Was Wrong: The Church Was Right".

    He's managed to mislead some actual scientists in order to get them on camera and then proceeded to manipulate their words so that it sounds like they support his view. They don't.

    There is a non zero probability that Earth is in a special place in the universe. But it is vanishingly small and you would have to be an absolute fuckwit to buy into any of this shit after even the briefest of considerations.
    Things change. I see no reason why science can't revisit what it knows where new information becomes available... after all the guys being interviewed aren't first year physics students. It'll be interesting to see why their minds are changing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Things change. I see no reason why science can't revisit what it knows where new information becomes available... after all the guys being interviewed aren't first year physics students. It'll be interesting to see why their minds are changing.
    Too late, they're all distancing themselves from being involved. They've been edited to support this crackpot's theory. BTW, you are doing yourself a massive disservice to equate bullshit with science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Things change. I see no reason why science can't revisit what it knows where new information becomes available...
    That's pretty much the definition of science. This film is not science, it's just being portrayed to seem that way to people who don't know any better.

    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    after all the guys being interviewed aren't first year physics students. It'll be interesting to see why their minds are changing.
    Their comments have been taken out of context and manipulated by a religious nutcase. They are not geocentrists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    Too late, they're all distancing themselves from being involved. They've been edited to support this crackpot's theory. BTW, you are doing yourself a massive disservice to equate bullshit with science.
    I have an open mind and realise that knowledge changes with successive "discoveries". It may well be BULLSHIT, but a BIG question rears its ugly head: Why would these people of high standing in the physics community be interviewed offering such "insane" theories? The retraction is easy to understand as it'll affect their budgets etc... however the reason for standing up in the first place?

    I'll wait to see what they have to say when the doco comes out before writing it off by citing what is currently accepted as scientific fact/theory. Things change and the amount of shit we don't know anything about is likely exponentially larger than that which we do.
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    Of course the Earth is the centre of the universe. I'm on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender EnZed View Post
    That's pretty much the definition of science. This film is not science, it's just being portrayed to seem that way to people who don't know any better.

    Their comments have been taken out of context and manipulated by a religious nutcase. They are not geocentrists.
    I'll wait and see. We're all spinning around something.
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