Bastard Street Triple would not start this morning!

**HenryDorsetCase** · 10th April 2014, 09:37

It has not been started for a week but I thought I would take it for a WOF today in the hope of some decent autumn riding.

Key on, it does its little dance: needles sweep, lights come on, fuel pump whines, hit the button, turns over no fire. Turns over twice ... Gurrr Guurrrrr. nothing.

thought it might have been the clutch lockout or the sidestand lockout. Flicked the stand up, hold the clutch in.... same deal.

It doesnt "feel" like a flat battery: the lights do not go as dim as they do trying to start with a flat battery. I did put the battery on charge this morning and will try to start it tonight.

Suggestions as to what else to try?

09 Street Triple R with arrows lowboy and mapped to suit. ... and it went last week.

**oneblackflag** · 10th April 2014, 09:51

Plugs?
Just had a battery die on me, would light up turn over etc but just wouldn't crank over hard enough to start.

**Trade_nancy** · 10th April 2014, 09:53

Done anything such as remove the tank since it last ran?

**HenryDorsetCase** · 10th April 2014, 10:00

Originally Posted by Trade_nancy

Done anything such as remove the tank since it last ran?

not a thing. Parked it (in the garage - it is pampered).

My thoughts are leaning towards the battery but I don't have another one to try it with. Will try and jump it off the car tonight.

**Edbear** · 10th April 2014, 10:06

Did sombody mention a battery..?

**nodrog:Me** · 10th April 2014, 10:12

Try holding a bit off throttle on while starting. That works on an adult sized triple displaying the same syptoms.

Alternatively you could contact triumph new zealand for some help.

**oneblackflag** · 10th April 2014, 10:13

Originally Posted by Edbear

Did sombody mention a battery..?

Almost brought one of yours Ed... But was told if any water gets on the chip it's fucked (It's a dirt bike so quite likely).

**Edbear** · 10th April 2014, 10:18

Originally Posted by oneblackflag

Almost brought one of yours Ed... But was told if any water gets on the chip it's fucked (It's a dirt bike so quite likely).

I sell a lot to dirt bikes and the answer is really simple. As with any battery installation one should use a bit of electrical grease over the terminals, and with the Shorai, do the same across the charging port cover.

If it's likely to get dunked, as in a jetski for example, then you do need to waterproof them and most either seal around the terminals and port with silicon or put it in a plastic bag.

The biggest market for the batteries is to KTM dealers for some reason.

**oneblackflag** · 10th April 2014, 10:27

Originally Posted by Edbear

I sell a lot to dirt bikes and the answer is really simple. As with any battery installation one should use a bit of electrical grease over the terminals, and with the Shorai, do the same across the charging port cover.

If it's likely to get dunked, as in a jetski for example, then you do need to waterproof them and most either seal around the terminals and port with silicon or put it in a plastic bag.

The biggest market for the batteries is to KTM dealers for some reason.

Might give it a try next time... Funnily enough It was a KTM dealer who talked me out of it, they did say about the waterproofing though.

Sorry for hijacking the thread for a minute

**Blackbird** · 10th April 2014, 10:38

Your Triple is the same year as mine and 4 or 5 years from a battery these days seems around par for the course. Depends on how often you use it as longer periods without use does cause sulphating. My favoured option would be the battery too. Interestingly, I correspond with a chap in the USA who has one and had a similar problem to yours. The dealer reckoned the existing battery was fine after testing but the problem persisted until the battery was changed and all was fine afterwards. Just didn't hold enough capacity for cranking amps compared with the lower load demand for lights and so on.

**LankyBastard** · 10th April 2014, 10:41

Lets hope it is just the battery! A friend of mine had similar symptoms on his Daytona 675, was all good and then all of a sudden just no start. Would crank over fine, all lights would work, but dead. Turned out the crank position sensor had had enough and decided to retire. Required a whole new stator. Fun times.

Fingers crossed a new battery solves your problem!

**Edbear** · 10th April 2014, 10:42

Originally Posted by oneblackflag

Might give it a try next time... Funnily enough It was a KTM dealer who talked me out of it, they did say about the waterproofing though.

Sorry for hijacking the thread for a minute

I will put it in the dealer newsletter for April, and explain what to do. Thanks.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 10th April 2014, 10:43

Originally Posted by Edbear

Did sombody mention a battery..?

If I have to replace it (and thinking about it some more, it is most likely to be the OEM battery that John Bloor whittled from a solid block of lead then painstakingly personally installed in my bike) then its five years old... so likely at the end of its life.

If I have to replace it I will definitely buy a Shorai.... sure there is a price difference but the weight saving is completely worthwhile.

**BuzzardNZ** · 10th April 2014, 10:44

Originally Posted by Edbear

Did sombody mention a battery..?

Owl had ( has ? ) a triumph and one of your batteries caused him all sorts of grief.

OP should ask Owl before risking putting a Shorai in as from the sounds of it Shorai and Triumphs don't seem to play nice together.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 10th April 2014, 10:46

Originally Posted by nodrog

Try holding a bit off throttle on while starting. That works on an adult sized triple displaying the same syptoms.

Alternatively you could contact triumph new zealand for some help.

AHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAHAHAHAA yeah, thanks for that.

I can ring Street and Sport though. They're awesome.