ANOTHER speeding clamp down

[Madness]

Years ago I was following another biker around a bend over the limit in ChCh and I avoided a ticket thanks to him.

The hypocrisy in this thread is bordering on criminal already but Cassina, that's pure fucking gold!

[R650R]

Each to their own but I'd take higher national speed limits over here for compulsory, even higher cost insurance any day of the week. That should get a few more vehicles off the road.

So how does the compensation package work out if your six feet under afterwards...

Your idea has merit though on a Darwinian level, we'll up the speed limits for awhile to reduce the number of risktakers in the gene pool and hope they don't take out too many good drivers along the way...
After 10 years of that we'd reacha new equilibrium of courteous road users....

[DamianW]

Higher speed limits in most other parts of the world doesn't seem to be resulting in sending proportionately more road users to early graves. The point isn't so much about a desire for increased risk-taking but more about highlighting that artificially low speed limits are imposed relative to other developed countries. That so many fatalities occur at speeds between 60-80km/h suggests driver/rider error is primary cause as opposed to outright speed.

[ducatilover]

Compulsory insurance keeping crap cars off the road?

Fuck right off. There are bloody thousands upon thousands of illegal cars driving around, insurance, WoF etc will not change a thing.
Just like speeding fines, some cunts still think they deserve better than the 10km/h grace they are already given, as bad as cunts like me who reserve the right to keep smoking tobacco even though it kills. And these pretentious wankers on their fucking dangerous motorcycles


Jesus wept, bunch of moaning pricks who think they deserve better. Enjoy the roads, have a tug, chug a beer, hit yer missus and smile at life. Sandal wearing FIAT drivers the lot of ya ('cept JD and Bogan, logical pricks)

[bogan]

Compulsory insurance keeping crap cars off the road?

Fuck right off. There are bloody thousands upon thousands of illegal cars driving around, insurance, WoF etc will not change a thing.
Just like speeding fines, some cunts still think they deserve better than the 10km/h grace they are already given, as bad as cunts like me who reserve the right to keep smoking tobacco even though it kills. And these pretentious wankers on their fucking dangerous motorcycles


Jesus wept, bunch of moaning pricks who think they deserve better. Enjoy the roads, have a tug, chug a beer, hit yer missus and smile at life. Sandal wearing FIAT drivers the lot of ya ('cept JD and Bogan, logical pricks)

U wot m8? Fuggin having a logic thread off this time, wassit all aboot anyhu? Roady roady zoomy zoomy kachingy chingaling /wah?

[BoristheBiter]

Each to their own but I'd take higher national speed limits over here for compulsory, even higher cost insurance any day of the week. That should get a few more vehicles off the road.

What little fantasy land did you get that gem from?

[DamianW]

Thanks for that

[TheDemonLord]

Each to their own but I'd take higher national speed limits over here for compulsory, even higher cost insurance any day of the week. That should get a few more vehicles off the road.

If the higher cost was reasonable (ie, a 30% or 50% increase) then fine,

but I think the UK is something like 300-400% more expensive

[BoristheBiter]

If the higher cost was reasonable (ie, a 30% or 50% increase) then fine,

but I think the UK is something like 300-400% more expensive

the last time I owned a car in the UK was in 97.
it was a 72 morris, cost 125 quid, insurance was 630 quid for minium 3rd party.

[James Deuce]

Compulsory insurance keeping crap cars off the road?

Fuck right off. There are bloody thousands upon thousands of illegal cars driving around, insurance, WoF etc will not change a thing.
Just like speeding fines, some cunts still think they deserve better than the 10km/h grace they are already given, as bad as cunts like me who reserve the right to keep smoking tobacco even though it kills. And these pretentious wankers on their fucking dangerous motorcycles


Jesus wept, bunch of moaning pricks who think they deserve better. Enjoy the roads, have a tug, chug a beer, hit yer missus and smile at life. Sandal wearing FIAT drivers the lot of ya ('cept JD and Bogan, logical pricks)

Fuck, better sell the FIAT.

[DamianW]

If the higher cost was reasonable (ie, a 30% or 50% increase) then fine,

but I think the UK is something like 300-400% more expensive

Lived in Germany for four years in the '80's. Insurance cost was reasonable, higher open road speed limits and I have yet to see any nation match their overall standard of driving competency. I have no quantitative stats to support that view but taken from a longitudinal ethnographic study over four years living there. So to BtB, not so much fantasy land mate.

[ducatilover]

Fuck, better sell the FIAT.

If you could just go ahead and do that, that would be great.

[TheDemonLord]

Lived in Germany for four years in the '80's. Insurance cost was reasonable, higher open road speed limits and I have yet to see any nation match their overall standard of driving competency. I have no quantitative stats to support that view but taken from a longitudinal ethnographic study over four years living there. So to BtB, not so much fantasy land mate.

I think you will find though that the driving comptency has a direct correlation with the national mindset - same reason why German engineering is so very often of such high quality.

I have visited germany and agree the standard of driving to be very high - I particularly like the fact that you can be ticketed for driving too slow in the fast lane (so annoying when some numpty is doing 80 in the overtaking lane here for no reason)

but as for insurance - the UK (which we are more closely aligned, in terms of attitude and national psyche) has ridiculas insurance premiums which has done nothing to quell either youthfull spirited driving, or shit buckets on the road - the only policy that did address the later was the new car one (CBF finding the policy)

[swbarnett]

Lived in Germany for four years in the '80's. Insurance cost was reasonable, higher open road speed limits and I have yet to see any nation match their overall standard of driving competency.

Try the Swiss.

The main reason, I feel, that their driving is so good is that they have the best public transport system I've seen, probably the best in the world. Because of this only those that want to drive actually drive*. This results in a driving population that are actually engaged in what they're doing.





^*When I lived there there was only 1 car for every 1350 people in Zurich

[ducatilover]

I think you will find though that the driving comptency has a direct correlation with the national mindset - same reason why German engineering is so very often of such high quality.

I have visited germany and agree the standard of driving to be very high - I particularly like the fact that you can be ticketed for driving too slow in the fast lane (so annoying when some numpty is doing 80 in the overtaking lane here for no reason)

but as for insurance - the UK (which we are more closely aligned, in terms of attitude and national psyche) has ridiculas insurance premiums which has done nothing to quell either youthfull spirited driving, or shit buckets on the road - the only policy that did address the later was the new car one (CBF finding the policy)

Seen how hard it is to get a licence over there? You actually need some level of competence, and hours behind the wheel in different conditions.
Apparently, driver training is good, because (this is a fucking long shot here) it trains drivers.
But, what the fuck would I know? Dah gummint knows wotz best for all youse guys and I follow them.