White Poppies?

[Mo NZ]

OK, so of all those who have posted in this thread, please step forward all those who have served in their countries armed services.
Right then, a red poppy IS for ANZAC day.
A white, apologist flower is neither for peace or sacrifice but about being a bunch of do gooders trying to rewrite history, the way they'd like to see it.
Just my take on things, my poppy will always be red and God help the turkey who shows up on parade with anything remotely white on either side of their chest.

3rd gen count??

[bogan]

+1 fwiw

The same approach was used to hijack and corrupt the meaning of the word marriage. Makes me wonder if the same sort of people hang out in the peace brigade?

What, Women? Probably...

[caseye]

3rd gen count??

If you feel it, then Absolutely.

[FJRider]

Disagree. Those who fought for my freedoms did so to bring about peace. Perhaps they should make a red and white poppy as in no way do I see it detracting anything away from those who fought.

It's not about "Fight for freedoms"

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.


The meaning is to each ... personal ... and to each individual ... their own.

No right (or wrong) interpretation.

But worthy of each to give thought on it ...

[awa355]

This! +1


"In Flanders fields"[/B]

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

There is another poem that was written by a Moina Michael November 1918 as a tribute to the original poem.

" We shall keep the faith ".

Oh! you who sleep in Flanders Fields,
Sleep sweet - to rise anew!
We caught the torch you threw
And holding high, we keep the Faith
With All who died.

We cherish, too, the poppy red
That grows on fields where valor led;
It seems to signal to the skies
That blood of heroes never dies,
But lends a lustre to the red
Of the flower that blooms above the dead
In Flanders Fields.

And now the Torch and Poppy Red
We wear in honor of our dead.
Fear not that ye have died for naught;
We'll teach the lesson that ye wrought
In Flanders Fields.

[mashman]

It's not about "Fight for freedoms"

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.


The meaning is to each ... personal ... and to each individual ... their own.

No right (or wrong) interpretation.

But worthy of each to give thought on it ...

It does indeed. Perhaps if the peace brigade were listened to more often, instead of the war mongers, we wouldn't have as many fatherless children and childrenless fathers.

[bogan]

It does indeed. Perhaps if the peace brigade were listened to more often, instead of the war mongers, we wouldn't have as many fatherless children and childrenless fathers.

Perhaps if they have a message worth delivering, they could do so on many of the other 364 days a year instead of trying to change the meaning of our day of remembrance for those brave souls who gave their lives in circumstances completely beyond our comprehension, but not beyond our profound respect.

[Oscar]

It does indeed. Perhaps if the peace brigade were listened to more often, instead of the war mongers, we wouldn't have as many fatherless children and childrenless fathers.

What rubbish.
The sad fact about human nature is that sometimes (Hitler, Saddam, Pol Pot, Idi Amin etc) true evil appears and has to be eliminated.
Go to Tehran and babble about freedom and peace.
See how long you last.

[mashman]

Perhaps if they have a message worth delivering, they could do so on many of the other 364 days a year instead of trying to change the meaning of our day of remembrance for those brave souls who gave their lives in circumstances completely beyond our comprehension, but not beyond our profound respect.

I completely take your point... however I don't see that the meaning of the day is being changed or hijacked or anything at all, and I don't see it as being disrespectful to those who fought and those who died to be wishing and displaying a desire for peace on the same day. They kind of go hand in hand for me.

[Akzle]

fuken. Dont care what color, as long as i can keep riding my unicorn along the hooferdoo dar dae.

[scumdog]

Who cares what colour the poppies are? As long as they're proper opium poppies; Papaver somniferum, then that's what really counts.

C'mon, you're not 12 anymore...

[FJRider]

Who cares what colour the poppies are? As long as they're proper opium poppies; Papaver somniferum, then that's what really counts.

Plenty care ... and for your interest ... the "Flanders Poppy' is NOT that variety ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papaver_rhoeas

[oldrider]

Neither are compulsary purchases or donations (Whatever you prefer to call it) and people are free to participate! (or not)

Motorcycle rallies are often doubled up on the same weekends and while some of us get our feathers ruffled over it they soon sort themselves out!

Red poppy day has had quite a bit of unsolicited advertising as a result of the white poppy initiative, so it's not all bad!

Just another fund raiser ... as the Yoda said Do or do not ... sorted!

[SMOKEU]

C'mon, you're not 12 anymore...

Exactly, now I'm old enough to try the good drugs!

[imdying]

Just another fund raiser

That is the reality. All the other drivel is just in peoples minds.