The cheater MX85 argument. I might be changing my mind.

[Pumba]

....OR we could argue about it for another 5 years.

If we dont the internet might die

[Kickaha]

There's also a lot of DR125s, GN125s, XL125s and GL145 motors around too, so maybe we should ban the FXRs and CBRs as clearly they are too expensive and not needed and there are plenty of other motors.

That's a fucking brilliant idea, the GN is obviously so awesome I cant see why anyone would want anything else

[F5 Dave]

who gives a .what they do i the US,i think they all race in the same class here,the 250s in the MX champs do.. ..

Someone pointed out I might have misunderstood this bit. Are you saying the 250 2s and 250 4s race in same class? If that's your point then how does this back up the original point?

[Sketchy_Racer]

So its ok to get a gear set cut at the local gear guy with whatever ratios you like, just costs a bit, but its not OK to have an engine built in a factory as a mxer with the same close ratios. Its ok to buy a close ratio gearbox from Akunar for your fxr because its a commuter engine, but not ok to buy a crf150 with similar gear ratios. Is the no competition parts rule just a bit past its best before date, its a bit like cannibis law its illegal but doesnt stop anyone

Has anyone bought the Akunar or similar gear sets? thats open enough to say so, it not illegal

This is probably the most logical post in relation to bucket rules I have seen in some time and I agree whole heartedly.

[richban]

Has anyone bought the Akunar or similar gear sets? thats open enough to say so, it not illegal

2 Expensive.

[steamroller]

Yeah I would say that has less to do with the motor and more to do with the pilot and also the chassis. To win you need the package and clearly they have it with the 80 in the RS chassis with a good rider.

Put him on one of the hot FXRs in a good chassis and he'd probably wax everyone on that as well.

Ok so 24 hp and a bike that is 64 kg dose not play much of a part in it. my bike is 84kg and 25 hp

[kel]

have Falicon build you a special commuter crank for your FXR and have a Ti rod and gudgeon pin made.

There's one of those kicking around up here in the "there's no budget cap, where's my works rider" side of the camp, don't know about the Ti con rod but the words titanium nitride ring a bell.
Just bought some Ti parts for the daughters bike, far too expensive for the bucket though.

[kel]

Ok so 24 hp and a bike that is 64 kg dose not play much of a part in it. my bike is 84kg and 25 hp

If the GP had of run for another 2 laps an FXR would have won!
What hp is Scotts bike putting out? Last graph I saw it was out performing my 2 stroke.

[steamroller]

Ok so 24 hp and a bike that is 64 kg dose not play much of a part in it. my bike is 84kg and 25 hp

And to think there has 100 kg man on 25 hp bike with arthritis in 2place not much in lap times so yeah none of us can ride

[mr bucketracer]

I've ridden Sketchys cheater bike & lets be clear. It ain't quick. I know what 18hp feels like. I know what 20hp feels like, I know what 22 HP feels like, 23, 24, 25, 26 & 27, all in pretty peaky packages. Sketchy's bike would have trouble drag racing my old 17-18hp H100. In fact I'd beat him. Or maybe when we put it on the dynojet we can do an all gears comparrison with an old run & find out. It was like 80kg. We can't do a real test as the engine is in Sketchys garage & the rest left to rot somewhere.

The amusing thing is Nathanial riding his dads bike won the GP with circa 24hp. He said it was considerably more peaky than his bike & he kinda preferred his. As if to prove a point he then used his bike to recently break the Auckland track record with not much more than 20hp but a better spread.

At least that is my understanding from talking to him & his dad.

I think we'd all prefer to hear that the bike(s?) is a monster 30hp weapon stuffed full of illegal race parts. but it isn't the case. We'll have to suck it up & hope he discovers gurls & slows down a notch or two.

so why in one hand say , the 85 is to get people out there racing without doing any work becuase there not to bad out the box ! and can't port or do anything and the other hand saying ( i want to see what i can get out of them having the only rule been 85 ? ...i don't get it

[steamroller]

If the GP had of run for another 2 laps an FXR would have won!
What hp is Scotts bike putting out? Last graph I saw it was out performing my 2 stroke.

It was 26 be for the gp after it was 23.5

[mr bucketracer]

And to think there has 100 kg man on 25 hp bike with arthritis in 2place not much in lap times so yeah none of us can ride

i must be superman lol , new rule 85cc has to be my weight 194kgs dry ( bike and rider ) i will go along with that rule . do what you want to the engine

[steamroller]

i must be superman lol , new rule 85cc has to be my weight 194kgs dry ( bike and rider ) i will go along with that rule . do what you want to the engine

If i could find overs sea's that a cr125 dirt bike was all so a road bike could i air cool it and race that. or is it only what we can get in zew zealand ?

[steamroller]

I've ridden Sketchys cheater bike & lets be clear. It ain't quick. I know what 18hp feels like. I know what 20hp feels like, I know what 22 HP feels like, 23, 24, 25, 26 & 27, all in pretty peaky packages. Sketchy's bike would have trouble drag racing my old 17-18hp H100. In fact I'd beat him. Or maybe when we put it on the dynojet we can do an all gears comparrison with an old run & find out. It was like 80kg. We can't do a real test as the engine is in Sketchys garage & the rest left to rot somewhere.

The amusing thing is Nathanial riding his dads bike won the GP with circa 24hp. He said it was considerably more peaky than his bike & he kinda preferred his. As if to prove a point he then used his bike to recently break the Auckland track record with not much more than 20hp but a better spread.

At least that is my understanding from talking to him & his dad.

I think we'd all prefer to hear that the bike(s?) is a monster 30hp weapon stuffed full of illegal race parts. but it isn't the case. We'll have to suck it up & hope he discovers gurls & slows down a notch or two.

when im next down il give you a bike to ride and you let me know how much hp it is seeing your a walking dyno

[Yow Ling]

Does anyone know how easy it is to port a plated barrell ? Nicasil is as hard as all hell, you can remove it but then you need a replate about 500 bux.
The barrells I have seen have the plating going a few mm into the ports, so if you just do a rough bit of a grind and dont replate does it peel off?
Would this limit peoples enthusiasim for the 85's.
If you go down the sleeve a 125 back to 100 thats about a grand if you pay a man to do it.

You really do have to be in love with ring dings to go down this track, but good things are seldom cheap and cheap things are seldom good