210cc would nearly make Richban's bucket legal
Be careful...If it's 210cc for 2V singles, possibly OK. But Wallace's rarely seen 2V/cylinder CB125 twin is already reputedly making over 20hp.
I'm philosophically opposed to forever going bigger - that's what fucked F3 in the end.
Pretty sure the CB twins should have 4 in total?
Speedpro or Dave will know what the O'Connor twins made?
I am philosophically opposed to Competition engines in F4 and F5 it was mostly the whole point of most of the people interest the class.
I just see it ending in silly pricks buying KTM85 which are ubber dear and ubber high tech and turning it into a $ contest.
In think what f-ed F# was thats what it turned into.
There appears to have been more money spent on F3 this year than for some time...Two Kramers plus DC on a Wobbly Aprilia/banshee thing....
The O'Connor twins were good for under 20hp as far as I know, 150cc, big cam, GSXR ignition, exhaust pipe & standard carbs. I think 17-18hp would be a good guess.
You don't have to be a silly prick to spend uber$. My MB big end pin had to cost about $1K in the end and the Wobbly tune and porting was $lots. Mind you that was spread over quite a few years. Same with the FZR, mega $$$, but currently at about the 21 year mark and still a "work-in-progress".
That is a reasonable comment about the original intention of bucket racing and competition engines, with or without the "s". Anything competition was specifically excluded. There's been a bit of "competition" sneaking in though. The list of "open" components. Letting in a complete competition engine seems to contradict the original intentions. That in itself is no reason to not allow them. What is my concern is the whole package of amendments and where it may or may not end. If an MX85 is allowed I can see that some pit bike engines could be allowed, and why not. If 2 valve pit bike engines are allowed why not lesser tuned 4 valve engines.
It's just a big can of worms and the less tinkering with the rules the better. On that note maybe the MX85 option should be left alone.
Yeah granted the original ones i cant find were no "factory Hot up parts cam and other stuff were mentioned " i think it used a word like Yoshimura etc but stuff like reground cams and mx or race carbs were okay.
True but that money was spend by you to stay within the rules where you could have cheated and put in a CR80 crank for the same stroke.
i think the rules should stay the same but as i am not racing and havent for years its moot.
That said i do have a CR80 engine here and it fits in a NF4 chassis rather nicely. far better than a NSR125 or MB100
But considering my arms connection to the rest of my body is rather tenuous and i have two fractured vertebrae atm it isn't an option for me, but JR is 15 in April and he weighs about 50kg and has far more flexible bones.
Don't you look at my accountant.
He's the only one I've got.
Gm will still have em if anyone bothered to turn up in fact you could ran a meeting here everyweek if you wanted.
The comment about AC air cooled would also apply to WC 2T unfortunately.
I cant see the MNZ not resisting the urge "to be seen as Green" by allowing ethanol in the very near future. which would solve the AC 2t heating
TF125 are no longer competitive or even close. Cycle parts are not suitable either.
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