When people die on quad bikes, what kills them? Is it head injuries?

[HenryDorsetCase]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/1005...rolls-on-woman ... today

was speed a factor? and was she wearing a helmet?

[HenryDorsetCase]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-729112670.htm

clearly this is the answer. First bike I ever rode. First bike I ever got airborne. First bike I ever fell off of. All within 60 seconds of each other.

[Robbo]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-729112670.htm

clearly this is the answer. First bike I ever rode. First bike I ever got airborne. First bike I ever fell off of. All within 60 seconds of each other.

Yep, they were shockers alright, especially trying to go around corners on a wet road. Those big fat tyres wanted to go every way but where they were supposed to. They were great on the beach though.

[HenryDorsetCase]

We were riding in what was called the shingle pit. basically where they quarried gravel for the local roads. there were big piles and holes and stuff and all the local kids with motorbikes used to ride round in it.

In a kind of "Good old days" moment I was just thinking that you wouldnt get near a place like that today. It would be crawling with people in hi viz and hardhats carrying clipboards and walkie talkies. The one we were in didnt even have a gate!...

Pleased to report no deaths or injuries, plus learning to ride a motorbike in a place like that teaches you valuable lessons. The value of gloves and kneepads frinstance. Cor, those were the days.

[scott411]

this guy would added to the road bike statistics if he had crashed,

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...police-pursuit

[MD]

I can't be stuffed reading all these posts but to answer the opening question: why do people die riding quads, it's simple. They are not motorcyclists.

I've ridden quads many times and in my youth those ridiculously dangerous earlier versions that were three wheelers. Both were inherently dangerous vehicles best left to those familiar with two wheeled motorbikes. End of story.
If you aren't familiar with how to control a 2 wheeled motorbike, then stay the hell off quad bikes.

I doubt an experienced motorcyclist would come to grief on a quad. We have a higher level of appreciation of the dynamics of bikes.

[Akzle]

I can't be stuffed reading all these posts but to answer the opening question: why do people die riding quads, it's simple. They are not motorcyclists.

I've ridden quads many times and in my youth those ridiculously dangerous earlier versions that were three wheelers. Both were inherently dangerous vehicles best left to those familiar with two wheeled motorbikes. End of story.
If you aren't familiar with how to control a 2 wheeled motorbike, then stay the hell off quad bikes.

I doubt an experienced motorcyclist would come to grief on a quad. We have a higher level of appreciation of the dynamics of bikes.

quads have different "dynamics".
' to mention steering.
You can traverse so far, stable as shit, but once you reach tipping point... Game over.

[unstuck]

We were riding in what was called the shingle pit. basically where they quarried gravel for the local roads. there were big piles and holes and stuff and all the local kids with motorbikes used to ride round in it.

In a kind of "Good old days" moment I was just thinking that you wouldnt get near a place like that today. It would be crawling with people in hi viz and hardhats carrying clipboards and walkie talkies. The one we were in didnt even have a gate!...

Pleased to report no deaths or injuries, plus learning to ride a motorbike in a place like that teaches you valuable lessons. The value of gloves and kneepads frinstance. Cor, those were the days.

There is a spot along the river down here that is like that, no gates, no hi-viz, on public land too. There is a local company that is going to give it,s employees the day off to give the area a good clean up, because some shitheads have been dumping a bit of rubbish down there.

[MD]

quads have different "dynamics".
' to mention steering.
You can traverse so far, stable as shit, but once you reach tipping point... Game over.

Agree they are different vehicles in many ways, especially how they behave and suddenly throw you. I think people going from riding bikes to quads are better skilled though to cope with a quad, than people who have only ever driven cars. Especially dirt bike riders - who know they can dump you!

[Akzle]

Agree they are different vehicles in many ways, especially how they behave and suddenly throw you. I think people going from riding bikes to quads are better skilled though to cope with a quad, than people who have only ever driven cars. Especially dirt bike riders - who know they can dump you!

but that riding a bike doesn't make you good at quads, nor do i think the skills are really that transferable.

bikers > carsers,
that's just fact all over the place, so it stands to reason that they're generally better at life.

[SMOKEU]

I doubt an experienced motorcyclist would come to grief on a quad.

Mix a bit of bad luck with stupidity, and anything can happen.

[FJRider]

Mix a bit of bad luck with stupidity, and anything can happen.

A dash of bravado ... with a bit of bad timing ... leads to the same thing. Risk taking is a favorite Kiwi past time. (for young and old) When nothing untoward happens ... we pat ourselves on the back for having the skills ...

When shit DOES happen ... the search for blame starts ... (It can't be MY fault .. !!)

Experience (with no previous problems) can lead to pushing the boundary's of what is possible ... in dubious conditions or unfamiliar locations. (I never thought THAT would happen ... !!!)

[Winston001]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farm...-unjustifiable


I would have thought it would be crush injuries and broken necks.

Back on topic, I'm having trouble seeing how these accidents happen in the first place. I've ridden farm quads and they are low slung creatures with a wide footprint. IMHO you'd have to really try to tip one over.

[bogan]

It would not be too difficult to develop a tip sensor alarm which goes off when the bike has reached its safe tilt limit.

We looked into that, cos a lot of the bike's dynamics is to do with how the rider/gear/dog loads the bike, a simple gyro wouldn't be enough. Suspension and tyre pressures would be possible, but, such an approach completely overlooks the sudden nature of a rollover; hills are often bumpy as shit. Balancing safety tolerance to be realistic enough to catch serious incidents but not give too many false positives to get it discounted entirely would be very very difficult; not to mention having fuck all uptake anyway.

[Big Dog]

Back on topic, I'm having trouble seeing how these accidents happen in the first place. I've ridden farm quads and they are low slung creatures with a wide footprint. IMHO you'd have to really try to tip one over.

Also they often carry large tool kits, large animals or worse liquid loads. A sprayer can be the max laden weight sans rider.

Not too bad when full I a little slow to turn. But as you take the liquid out the bike becomes less stable and more prone to a tip.
The one I rode like that was stable as anything full but pitched an swayed all over the show when 1/2 full. 120+ litres slopping around took care of any macho ideas I had about anything my ex could do this city boy could do better. Took a pretty steady nerve to go half tilt on relatively flat dirt track. The arse took a few bites at half full.

Not for me. I traded for the farm bike at the next stop. Mind you she got me to ride it out of the gulch after lunch. A bit steep for her liking. Bit steep for mine too but never let a damsel down...


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