Pirelli Diablo or Michelin Pilot Road?

[Smiff-ta]

Hi Guys n Gals.

Just after some different opinions.

I need to replace the tyres on my SV1000 soon. I am currently running Pirelli Diablos front and rear.

Im considering changing to Michelin Pilot Roads front and rear, are they any better from your experience?

Thanks James

[Gremlin]

Usual caveat. Tyres are subjective, what one person will love, another will hate.

Pirelli Diablo is a range, Strada was the touring tyre, for example, so not sure what you were using.

I like the Pilot Road range, currently normal sizing is 3 and 4 (could be odd ones from 1 and 2 sitting on the shelf). 3 has soft carcass, so not everyone was happy with performance (like running 2 up). Option is either using the GT version (for heavier bikes) or using something like the Metzeler Z8.

[p.dath]

Hi Guys n Gals.

Just after some different opinions.

I need to replace the tyres on my SV1000 soon. I am currently running Pirelli Diablos front and rear.

Im considering changing to Michelin Pilot Roads front and rear, are they any better from your experience?

Thanks James

There are Michelin Pilot Roads (PR3), and Michelin Pilot Power's (PP3). PR3's are not recommend, by Michelin, on sports bikes with 1000cc or more. They are not designed for the power output.

PP3's (let me repeat - Pilot Power 3) is designed for high power bikes. You can also confirm this using the Michelin motorcycle tyre selector for you bike.
http://moto.michelin.com/moto/SUZUKI...00-S-2003-2007

[BoristheBiter]

Usual caveat. Tyres are subjective, what one person will love, another will hate.

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Yep, I hate Michelin, won't have then anywhere near the bike and I prefer Dunlop.

Also how long does he want them to last, how much does he want to spend?

[AllanB]

Don't take this the wrong way the SV1000 is not a high performance bike now days - (same type of power as my Hornet 900) the Pilot Road 2 or 3 will be absolutely fine - many run them. Modern sport-touring tyres are sticky on the edges and have harder centers to reduce squaring off and thus give better mileage.

Also consider Conti Road Attack 2, Bridgestone T30 - Ive run all three on my Hornet (T30's presently) and they are all very good tyres and will suit the SV1000, stick well and give you decent kms.

[nzspokes]

Yep, I hate Michelin, won't have then anywhere near the bike and I prefer Dunlop.

Also how long does he want them to last, how much does he want to spend?

Funny, I want to move away from the PR series as ive always felt they are a hard sidewall tyre. Everything ive read on Dunlops on my model bike is good. They will probably be my next tyre.

[nzspokes]

Don't take this the wrong way the SV1000 is not a high performance bike now days - (same type of power as my Hornet 900) the Pilot Road 2 or 3 will be absolutely fine - many run them. Modern sport-touring tyres are sticky on the edges and have harder centers to reduce squaring off and thus give better mileage.

Also consider Conti Road Attack 2, Bridgestone T30 - Ive run all three on my Hornet (T30's presently) and they are all very good tyres and will suit the SV1000, stick well and give you decent kms.

Have you ridden a SV1k? It has much more low down torque over the Hornet which is what eats tyres.

[Gremlin]

Have you ridden a SV1k? It has much more low down torque over the Hornet which is what eats tyres.

Yeeeeaaaah, actually no.

CB919:


SV1000:


The best graphs I seemed able to find. Bearing in mind different dynos can give big differences, and ignoring that, they're actually pretty close all the way through, only 5 ft-lbs difference through the rev range.

However, the SV is a twin and the CB919 is an inline 4. That alone does mean a difference in delivery and tyre torture.

[mulletman]

Ive happily got Pilot Power 3s on my SV , ridden in pissing down westcoast rain with no probs what so ever , i originally thought these would be great 'summer only' tyres but would not hesitate to use all year round. Normaly i would use Pilot Road 3s for winter.
Have around 9000Kms on my current PP3s.

Pilot Road 4s look like a mix of PP3 & PR3 (tread anyway) will try them next just to see , otherwise
PP3.

[p.dath]

Ive happily got Pilot Power 3s on my SV , ridden in pissing down westcoast rain with no probs what so ever , i originally thought these would be great 'summer only' tyres but would not hesitate to use all year round. Normaly i would use Pilot Road 3s for winter....

If you check the Michelin tyre handling chart for each tyre you'll find the wet weather handing of the PP3 is excellent. As you say, there is no reason not to use the PP3 all year round.

[p.dath]

Don't take this the wrong way the SV1000 is not a high performance bike now days - (same type of power as my Hornet 900) the Pilot Road 2 or 3 will be absolutely fine - many run them. Modern sport-touring tyres are sticky on the edges and have harder centers to reduce squaring off and thus give better mileage.

When the tyre manufacturer themselves don't recommend the tyre for a particular type of bike, and then go to the trouble of making a tool to let you look up the recommended tyre, then it is a big call to ignore their advice. But hey, ultimately it is the riders choice.

[nzspokes]

Yeeeeaaaah, actually no.

The best graphs I seemed able to find. Bearing in mind different dynos can give big differences, and ignoring that, they're actually pretty close all the way through, only 5 ft-lbs difference through the rev range.

However, the SV is a twin and the CB919 is an inline 4. That alone does mean a difference in delivery and tyre torture.

Having ridden both my butt dyno says the SV comes on a lot stronger. Keep in mind your talking a alloy frame against a thin steel backbone. Hornet has a great motor, shame its not got the frame to cope with it.

[Smiff-ta]

Thanks for the help,

Interesting re the Pilot Road. - I figured these where are touring type tire which would be more suited to my riding. (Two up at the speed limit)

Might just stick with what I have, if it aint broke dont fix it?

Cheers

[caspernz]

Get the set of Pilot Road 3s, you won't regret it for the use you've described

[release_the_bees]

For what it's worth, I use Pilot Road 3s on my SV1000 and I have never had any traction issues. The wet weather grip is awesome.

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