Moto3

[FROSTY:Me]

Is it just me or is moto 3 the most exciting bike racing out there.
For me its edge of your seat stuff reminds me of the 250 production racing back in then 1980's

[haydes55]

I agree. You never know who will take it out and there's usually 3 or 4 lead changes in the final lap if there are a few guys up there. So much strategy.

Plus motogp is usually past my bed time, so I have to watch the gp replayed, but moto3 live. The red bull rookies racing was good to watch too (when they show coverage).

[BoristheBiter]

Totally agree.

It is just fantastic to watch and that last one was just something else.

[steveyb]

Yep, absolutely is. Makes MotoGP look like F1.
But it is just like 125GP was before the factories (Aprilia mostly) built a small handful of unobtanium factory bikes.
Hopefully the factories will see the folly in doing that this time round.

If we can somehow get a few more (mostly) youngsters on the grid here in NZ on 125GP/Pre-Moto3 machines, we too can have the same show.
The smaller and less powerful bikes just tend to lend themselves to closer more attractive racing.

[scott411]

Yep, absolutely is. Makes MotoGP look like F1.
But it is just like 125GP was before the factories (Aprilia mostly) built a small handful of unobtanium factory bikes.
Hopefully the factories will see the folly in doing that this time round.

If we can somehow get a few more (mostly) youngsters on the grid here in NZ on 125GP/Pre-Moto3 machines, we too can have the same show.
The smaller and less powerful bikes just tend to lend themselves to closer more attractive racing.

i thought the rules of Moto 3 were you had to make a certain number of engines available at a certain price?

[pritch]

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The smaller and less powerful bikes just tend to lend themselves to closer more attractive racing.

Not always, a lot of times the 600s put on the best show. That last Moto3 race was special though, from start to finish.

[haydes55]

i thought the rules of Moto 3 were you had to make a certain number of engines available at a certain price?

Na, moto3 is like motogp but smaller, prototype racing.

I wish my 267cc (iirc) single could do 220km/h+ instead of revving its tits off at 150km/h

[scott411]

Na, moto3 is like motogp but smaller, prototype racing.

I wish my 267cc (iirc) single could do 220km/h+ instead of revving its tits off at 150km/h

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/173...announced.html

did they change from the first year? 12K euro, and minimum of 15 available to teams,

edit: looks like here are the legal motors,

http://www.fim-live.com/en/fim/fim-o...ine-and-parts/

[mr bucketracer]

i would like to see more on the track here so can i build 2 bikes with zxr250 engine in them or should i say do you think its a good idea , it would sound so cool , dont see why the rules have to be the same if its about getting more number on the track

[pritch]

i would like to see more on the track here so can i build 2 bikes with zxr250 engine in them

Nah, not when you can buy one of these:

http://world.honda.com/HRC/products/.../nsf250r/spec/

Although that model hash't got the "mass centralisation be buggered" exhaust system.

[george formby]

I agree. You never know who will take it out and there's usually 3 or 4 lead changes in the final lap if there are a few guys up there. So much strategy.

Plus motogp is usually past my bed time, so I have to watch the gp replayed, but moto3 live. The red bull rookies racing was good to watch too (when they show coverage).

Yup, I'm snoring before the main event, too. Only caught the last few laps of the moto 3 at the weekend but phew! Love the 6 hundys as well, very competitive but a lot more lurid.
I've reached the point that I'm happy with the motogp high lights and unhappy if I miss the 2 and 3 races live.

I was also trying to keep an eye on the support classes for BSB. The Triumph 675 series is epic, absolutely nanas. BSB is pretty nanas anyway.

The other race series that's really hot is the European one make class, Honda's at the mo I think. A kiwi lad who's name escapes me was doing really well. Maybe that was last season......

As much as I love the tussle & elbows of a good track race we are now into the UK road racing season. Now that is edge of the seat stuff.
Different league IMHO.

[pritch]

The other race series that's really hot is the European one make class, Honda's at the mo I think. A kiwi lad who's name escapes me was doing really well. Maybe that was last season......

Jake Lewis is in Superstock 600 this year IIRC.

[george formby]

Jake Lewis is in Superstock 600 this year IIRC.

Ah, cheers! He done good.

[Shaun Harris]

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The Triumph 675 series is epic, absolutely nanas. BSB is pretty nanas anyway.







That sure is exellent racing and an awsome way to go racing in the BSB series and get noticed by the top teams

[steveyb]

Nah, not when you can buy one of these:

http://world.honda.com/HRC/products/.../nsf250r/spec/

Although that model hash't got the "mass centralisation be buggered" exhaust system.

Or one of these for less money (not sure how much less quite yet):

http://www.imd250.com

The Mark 2 version will launch this summer and will have a lower kerb weight than the NSF250 (in fact we already do!! Don't have the same power output just yet, but that will be better with the Mark 2 version).

If you look closely, the new Honda engine design has copied a lot from the KTM SXF250 engine.
The only real-world differences between the Honda NSF engine and the KTM SXF250 are: plain shell bearings instead of roller bearings in crankshaft (I wonder if this can be reverse engineered?? Any experts out there? But really is not an issue, just makes service intervals a bit shorter at the high RPM's) and the transmission ratios. (I know this can be done, but costs money as bespoke gears might need making as no one offers off the shelf alternatives. The KTM XCF ones are not right either). Maybe searching parts books might turn up alternatives from other engines? Anyone keen to go looking for me???
The service limits on the Moto3 engines are pretty short and the parts costs of consumables is high.

Other than the crankshaft bearings, with a little bit of work we can make the KTM SXF engine perform virtually as well as a customer NSF250 engine, at least for the purposes of use in NZ racing, for waaaay less than half the cost.

Come on, place your orders now......