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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    You don't seriously think governments worry about a few blokes riding around on motorcycles do you?
    Of course not.

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    There are far more important things to worry about than paying $200 a year more than a car
    And this is why they get away with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by willytheekid View Post
    I know the new ANPR cameras are programmed to catch people doing this
    Using the "If a tree falls in the woods ..." analogy.
    If a motorcyclists' number plate passes in front of an ANPR camera and that camera cannot see the number plate, was the motorcyclist ever there?

    With thanks to Mr Spidi, this can happen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    Maybe if all ACC was funded by fuel taxes that would be the way to go and would save the Govt and Police a heap in administration or maybe a road user charge system like diesel vehicles to fund it so people who ride/drive only occasionally are not charged the same as those on the road everyday who are at greater risk of having an accident
    Or you could go one step further and go back to the overriding principles of ACC - everybody benefits so everybody pays prorata to income i.e. TAKE IT OUT OF TAX REVENUE and stop all the bullshit about who subsidies who. After all, if nobody subsidised anyone else ACC would not exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Using the "If a tree falls in the woods ..." analogy.
    If a motorcyclists' number plate passes in front of an ANPR camera and that camera cannot see the number plate, was the motorcyclist ever there?

    With thanks to Mr Spidi, this can happen!
    Time to start perfecting the ol' foot over the numberplate move.

    edit: Mind you I've been riding my A7 all summer with no numberplate at all....I don't really know what would have happened if I had been pulled over. Hopefully this time next week it will have a plate though....and I can stomach $120/year retro-rego.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Using the "If a tree falls in the woods ..." analogy.
    If a motorcyclists' number plate passes in front of an ANPR camera and that camera cannot see the number plate, was the motorcyclist ever there?

    With thanks to Mr Spidi, this can happen!
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner View Post
    Time to start perfecting the ol' foot over the numberplate move.
    ...but...I don't have the knees for such acrobatics!
    (...can i settle for just throwing one of my spare boots at the camera's?)

    ...I honestly don't mind paying my fair share for cover, but not the present unjustified rate's...and especially not when you have to FIGHT to get the over priced cover you are "meant" to be legally entitled to.

    Fuck ACC!...where da pitchforks & torches at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    With RUCs it's 3X what you owe + bringing the RUCs up to date (the latter part is optional, if it's some old wreck with thousands of $ worth of unpaid mileage it might be better to scrap the vehicle). That's why if you have an ancient diesel it could be a viable option to fit a "magic switch" for the speedo.

    My man that has changed. I think is $200 ticket for a vehicle 3.5t and under that exceeded the maximum distance on the RUC and the maximum ticket for a heavy vehicle is $1500.

    Just some FYI

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    Maybe if all ACC was funded by fuel taxes that would be the way to go and would save the Govt and Police a heap in administration or maybe a road user charge system like diesel vehicles to fund it so people who ride/drive only occasionally are not charged the same as those on the road everyday who are at greater risk of having an accident
    In theory at least those who operate vehicles the least are more likely to have an at fault accident due to their relative inexperience.

    You increase your exposure but the level of risk gradually decreases as you gain experience provided it is quality experience and not just reinforcing bad habits.


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    RUC is more a question of proportionally taxing road users for the degree of damage likely to come from your vehicle to the road surface. Goes back to the days Of not taxing diesel as much as petrol. Now they tax diesel and charge RUC and you pay extra for the privilege on your rego.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner View Post
    Time to start perfecting the ol' foot over the numberplate move.
    Or just install Infrared LEDS around the number plate.
    Been hearing alot of things overseas about this stopping the vast majority of automatic detection cameras. Very cheap and easy to do if you know your way around electrical circuits. Undetectable to the naked eye as well, Im investigating making one for myself.

    As far as RUC goes, I challenge you to find a vehicle in NZ with genuine miles on the speedo thats running Diesel.
    We all are all cheating the system in someway or another, weather we get caught or not depends on what counter-measures we employ
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    Maybe they do away with income tax and put GST up to 50% let everybody do as they like and have no licences or rego or any of that shit. My worthwhile contribution to a pointless thread.
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    RUC's are fucking stupid for vehicles up to 3.5tns anyway. With the large numbers of diesel cars/wagons around they should incorporate it into the fuel price and then pay RUC for trucks etc over 3.5tns - like they do in most overseas countries. The price of diesel would then end up between 91 and 95, probably, as it does over in Aus.

    Bike rego has gone up over here as well - now pay $255 each for the 1000's - the bloody car and van are around $580/yr - probably cause they're diesel....
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Reibz View Post
    We all are all cheating the system in someway or another, weather we get caught or not depends on what counter-measures we employ
    I'm not.

    Don't own a diesel though.
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    ACC side of the story

    They reckon the fee should be $1267-00 per year.

    http://www.acc.co.nz/about-acc/consu...tion/index.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    It is, but my GSXR has an exemption from continuous licensing.
    Give to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by G4L4XY View Post
    Give to me
    What, the bike, or the exemption?

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