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    Quote Originally Posted by RJC View Post
    I've got two motorbikes, the missus has a horse, we both snowboard and mountainbike. I figure it balances out.

    And if you think acc levies on rego is expensive, I know some people in business that are required to have special insurance for missing debt repayments due to a motorcycle incident. It's eye watering.
    Yes, forgot about that - included me. You can add in self-employed people who like to rock climb, parapent, scuba dive, motor-racing etc. At my age its about $6000/year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJC View Post
    I know some people in business that are required to have special insurance for missing debt repayments due to a motorcycle incident. It's eye watering.
    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    You can add in self-employed people who like to rock climb, parapent, scuba dive, motor-racing etc. At my age its about $6000/year.
    Easy fix. Don't borrow money.
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    True but even after the loans are down to manageable levels, if there is a family to protect then income insurance makes good sense.

    Especially if ACC decide to recategorise a person and their life's career is gone.

    Just sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    True but even after the loans are down to manageable levels, if there is a family to protect then income insurance makes good sense.

    Especially if ACC decide to recategorise a person and their life's career is gone.

    Just sayin.
    Maybe. I've started again several times, never had the benefit of income insurance beyond that first small mortgage cover. Never had hungry kids.

    The thing about every sort of insurance is that it's never as cheap as covering the same risk from your own pocket. Except where the govt mess with the rules, as with ACC. So it makes sense to acquire the means to cover any reasonable eventuality yourself as early as possible and then tell the insurance companies fuck.
    Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner View Post
    Yup, same as my maths. Seeing as I haven't been pulled over in years, I'd say I'm well ahead.



    I've never heard of being forced to back-pay if your rego is on hold.
    I recently received my 1st infringement for an "on hold license" bike in 3 years.3 previous stops were either not noticed or let off with a "get it licensed warning".
    This time the "on hold had expired" and the bike was unlicensed.(unintentionally).
    Fine was $100 still way ahead of the fuckers.
    Went on line and put it on hold again - no problems.
    btw. I looked at the statute and it seems that riding unlicensed has the least penalties.
    Less than riding while on hold (exempt) or riding unregistered.

    I highly recommend it.

    Better than the Kiwi Way - bend over and let them fuck you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    Maybe if all ACC was funded by fuel taxes that would be the way to go and would save the Govt and Police a heap in administration or maybe a road user charge system like diesel vehicles to fund it so people who ride/drive only occasionally are not charged the same as those on the road everyday who are at greater risk of having an accident
    That would not assist their agenda to reduce the number of motorcyclists by making motor cycling unattractively expensive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Firstly, company levies and road user levies are indeed risk based. Only individual income levies are based on income alone.

    Secondly, those with a higher "ability to pay" have already paid an exponentially higher tax on their income, why should they have to pay more again?
    obviously does not know what "exponentially" means

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixie View Post
    I recently received my 1st infringement for an "on hold license" bike in 3 years.3 previous stops were either not noticed or let off with a "get it licensed warning".
    This time the "on hold had expired" and the bike was unlicensed.(unintentionally).
    Fine was $100 still way ahead of the fuckers.
    Went on line and put it on hold again - no problems.
    btw. I looked at the statute and it seems that riding unlicensed has the least penalties.
    Less than riding while on hold (exempt) or riding unregistered.
    .
    True story, you just got extorted... It's almost impossible to ride unlicensed [vehicle] nowadays; continuous licensing means the licence is continuous, when you pay is irrelevant the licence runs from the end of the last there's no escaping it aside from exemption which has it's own offence or unlicensed which again has it's own offence.
    It's residual from when vehicles didn't have continuous licences & is just used to illegally scam/extort $$$ from people today
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixie View Post
    That would not assist their agenda to reduce the number of motorcyclists by making motor cycling unattractively expensive

    Unfortunately their agenda is working through slowly grinding down the individual rider. How many here can just go out and slap on a years rego without thinking about it?. I face retirement in a couple of years and I wonder if I am going to be able to continue owning a bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by awa355 View Post
    Unfortunately their agenda is working through slowly grinding down the individual rider. How many here can just go out and slap on a years rego without thinking about it?. I face retirement in a couple of years and I wonder if I am going to be able to continue owning a bike.
    Yep I know what you feel - first time (in the last year) I've had bike / bikes "on hold". Next winter / cold period will look at registering bike / bikes on a daily basis

    stuff the effing ACC system. If anything they are doing themselves out of adding to the 3-4 billion they already have in their account.

    Still think people not registering at all are tossers


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    ACC levy should be paid on licence type held not on the vehicle.
    Your either licenced or not.
    No multi ownership penalty.
    Don't want ride bike in winter don't hold licence during that time.
    Make the vehicle licence renewable 3/6/9/12months with no need put it on hold just don't ride/drive without a current licence.
    Introduce scooter licence so they pay to ride one.
    I don't see why one person with 5 vehicles should pay tax 5 times to use the same road for the same potential total kms as a single vehicle owner.
    I don't see why a licenced rider can borrow a bike/car without having contributed.

    Abolish registration altogether and add the other costs into the fuel type for roads repairs.

    Lets face it a single vehicle owner doing 20tho a year is taking the same risk as a multi vehicle owner doing 20tho.
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    I've had enough!

    See the problem there Mossy is common sense. What you said, we all get that. However the the plebs that make these rules don't!

    Besides they really don't give a stuff if it costs us u and i more or not. We the public are simply there for pillaging more money from.

    At the ned of the day Gov't depts are about one thing now.............mo money mo money mo money.

    The world has changed, Gov't used to serve the people, now, the people are simply there to serve the Govt and in turn the Govt is simply there to serve big business.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ruaphu View Post
    At the ned of the day Gov't depts are about one thing now.............mo money mo money mo money.
    (i try to get it right, but probably not: )
    if what you're being sold isn't a service, you're the product...

    The world has changed, Gov't used to serve the people, now, the people are simply there to serve the Govt and in turn the Govt is simply there to serve big business.
    hahaha. no. they never did.

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    WOF ya bikes, and forget about rego.
    Oh, and stop whining you lot.
    Govt departments don't give a toss about you. So why care about their rulings.

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    I went though a check point last week where they were checking registration & WOF. First time it's happened to me but these check point do exist.

    Quote Originally Posted by tri boy View Post
    WOF ya bikes, and forget about rego.
    Oh, and stop whining you lot.
    Govt departments don't give a toss about you. So why care about their rulings.

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