Govt-owes-us-a-living types

**Voltaire** · 11th June 2014, 18:28

Originally Posted by Oscar

Another interesting question.
Why are we happy to share in MOST of these advances?
Why do we tolerate the French and their bleating about the Appellation d'Origine Contrôlée for a process that the Romans gave them?
Ditto for the EU origin laws for food.

Damn those French and their Appellation d'Origine Contrôlée, lets set up a thread on Rant and Rave...that'll fix them.

You should be over on ADV rider discussing airheads not wasting your life here....opps....

**Robert Taylor** · 11th June 2014, 19:13

Personally I am colour blind to the reality that I have two grandchildren with part Maori blood, the other part mostly European. I will be very concerned if as they grow they partake of the toxicity that we have increasingly in evidence that the white man owes ( for evermore ) the peoples that were here when NZ was discovered by Europeans. As to actually who was here first and what fate they suffered with no recompense is of course a subject that is conveniently sidelined.
Maybe I should claim back to the Swedish Government for pillaging and murder they committed against several of my Danish ancestors when Sweden had a large Scandinavian empire a few centuries back. Its a cultural thing that has scarred me!!!!
Like most people who dont accept this rort that is happening I have far more respect for those who get on with life, make their own way in the world and are an economic success by means that are fair and productive, rather than speculative or expecting taxpayer funded handouts. No rorts at any level or sector of society tolerated, as a clarification independent of race based rorts
The silly thing is that in respect of all of these multi million dollar settlements ( and future ''full and final'' settlements ) the people that really need the benefits are in fact getting little.
Those locked in a narrow minded attitude of the oppressed ( so called ) indigenous people and the evil white men may choose to call me and like minded people racist. I dont care about that and the reality is that an enormous number of ordinary everyday Kiwis of many ethnic backgrounds are increasingly concerned about this fraud that is happening
That a National Government is just as complicit in this nonsense is of major concern but the thought of a left wing grouping doesnt bear thinking about. Personally I think John Key should go to the country on the premise of instant termination of all settlements and some retrospective payback required ,rechanneled to those who need the help most, plus termination of all race based parliamentary seats and also of unelected and over represented Iwi in local body politics. People should be elected on merit, not colour.
If JK did this he would win by a landslide.

**Akzle** · 11th June 2014, 19:17

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

People should be elected on merit,
If JK did this he would win by a landslide.

oh troll lord!

**Oscar** · 11th June 2014, 19:24

Originally Posted by Voltaire

Damn those French and their Appellation d'Origine Contrôlée, lets set up a thread on Rant and Rave...that'll fix them.

You should be over on ADV rider discussing airheads not wasting your life here....opps....

Shuddup you...git over there and start an interesting thread then.

**haydes55** · 11th June 2014, 19:58

The thing I really don't understand is..... Why are people who want total equality, called racists, and people who support racially biased legislation are racially sensitive?

Someone please explain to me how equal rights is racist?

**JimO** · 11th June 2014, 21:04

anybody care to bet what flavour the two kids that killed the shopkeeper were, im picking they come from a long line of people who feel they are owed a living by the govt

**FJRider** · 11th June 2014, 21:15

Originally Posted by haydes55

The thing I really don't understand is..... Why are people who want total equality, called racists, and people who support racially biased legislation are racially sensitive?

Someone please explain to me how equal rights is racist?

Simple ... We are ALL equal in law.

Although ...

1. Some ... are more equal than others ...

2. Some ... are more special than others ...

3. Some ... have more rights (and can/will tell you what they are) than others ...

Those that will argue 1. 2. & 3. .... are obviously raciest ...

**scrivy** · 11th June 2014, 21:18

Originally Posted by JimO

anybody care to bet what flavour the two kids that killed the shopkeeper were, im picking they come from a long line of people who feel they are owed a living by the govt

So if a Maori kills an Indian, is he racist, racially sensitive, racially selective, or after racial equality???
Got me fucked...........

**skippa1** · 11th June 2014, 21:25

Originally Posted by JimO

anybody care to bet what flavour the two kids that killed the shopkeeper were, im picking they come from a long line of people who feel they are owed a living by the govt

White trash then?

**haydes55** · 11th June 2014, 21:25

Originally Posted by scrivy

So if a Maori kills an Indian, is he racist, racially sensitive, racially selective, or after racial equality???

Got me fucked...........

Actually a New Zealander killed a New Zealander.

**scrivy** · 11th June 2014, 21:29

Originally Posted by haydes55

Actually a New Zealander killed a New Zealander.

Right! So they were both NZ citizens then???

**wharekura** · 11th June 2014, 21:48

I thought this thread was about pensioners? How did race get into it.

**FJRider** · 11th June 2014, 22:13

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

Personally I am colour blind to the reality that I have two grandchildren with part Maori blood, the other part mostly European. I will be very concerned if as they grow they partake of the toxicity that we have increasingly in evidence that the white man owes ( for evermore ) the peoples that were here when NZ was discovered by Europeans. As to actually who was here first and what fate they suffered with no recompense is of course a subject that is conveniently sidelined.

Get that colour blindness treated ... it's obviously bugging you as much as it is for us ...

The racial history of your grand children should be of little importance .. yet their possible future views seem to be bugging you. Have you no faith their parents will bring them up with your point of view in mind. You DID bring them up right ... didn't you .. ??

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

Maybe I should claim back to the Swedish Government for pillaging and murder they committed against several of my Danish ancestors when Sweden had a large Scandinavian empire a few centuries back. Its a cultural thing that has scarred me!!!!

Has the Swedish Government such a process open to you ... ??? and if they do ... that WOULD be your right.

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

Like most people who dont accept this rort that is happening I have far more respect for those who get on with life

Follow your own advice and get over it. The Settlements were through due process as written in New Zealand legislation. By elected (by the people) members or our Government.

If a larger proportion of the General public actually voted ... there might be changes. Many don't ... and all vying for election are aware of that.

If you want the system changed ... take more of a part of it ... and make a difference. Or is it not worth the effort ... or not worth trying .. ??

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

Those locked in a narrow minded attitude of the oppressed ( so called ) indigenous people and the evil white men may choose to call me and like minded people racist. I dont care about that and the reality is that an enormous number of ordinary everyday Kiwis of many ethnic backgrounds are increasingly concerned about this fraud that is happening

Obviously not enormous enough ... or the change you hope for would be realized.

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

People should be elected on merit, not colour.
If JK did this he would win by a landslide.

Some have funny ideas on how or why they should vote. But they DO vote .... as is their right. And a win is a win ...

A big change may happen if EVERY eligible person actually DID care to vote. You figure out why they didn't care ...

**haydes55** · 11th June 2014, 22:38

Originally Posted by FJRider

Get that colour blindness treated ... it's obviously bugging you as much as it is for us

By elected (by the people) members or our Government.

If a larger proportion of the General public actually voted ... there might be changes. Many don't ... and all vying for election are aware of that.

If you want the system changed ... take more of a part of it ... and make a difference. Or is it not worth the effort ... or not worth trying .. ??

Obviously not enormous enough ... or the change you hope for would be realized.

Some have funny ideas on how or why they should vote. But they DO vote .... as is their right. And a win is a win ...

A big change may happen if EVERY eligible person actually DID care to vote. You figure out why they didn't care ...

The problem with voting for equality is, no politician makes it clear what their stance is on this issue. As soon as anyone says equal rights, the morons jump up and down screaming racism.

Helen Clarke said from the election she wanted to sort out all treaty claims, she won.... The majority voted for her to put an end to treaty claims.

John Key wanked on about bringing NZ back into a surplus.... Then gave all the foreshore and seabed to Maori etc.

I would love it if I knew politicians policies before voting, who knew a vote for John Key was a vote for selling off SOEs?

There is no politician or party who I feel represents my opinion of what would be best for NZ. So I usually vote for some minor party in the hope they can vote against labour/national.

We don't have an option to vote for equal rights.