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**ellipsis** · 11th June 2014, 23:40

Originally Posted by wharekura

I thought this thread was about pensioners? How did race get into it.

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**MisterD** · 12th June 2014, 08:50

Originally Posted by scrivy

So if a Maori kills an Indian, is he racist, racially sensitive, racially selective, or after racial equality???

He's a "victim of colonisation", move along and pass the tax dollars.

**Robert Taylor** · 12th June 2014, 08:53

In respect of who one votes for I personally like the stance Colin Craigs Conservative party has on many issues. But the big problem is one has to vote National to keep the left wing parties and their destructive policies out of Government

**MisterD** · 12th June 2014, 08:56

Originally Posted by haydes55

I would love it if I knew politicians policies before voting,

Welcome to the dog that is MMP. Sold to the great NZ unwashed and unthinking as a marvellous panacea to all the ills of "unrepresentative" systems, in practice a very efficient device for concentrating more power with the politicians who get to introduce anything they like as a result of "coalition negotiations" and the votes of party lists stacked with their drones.

**MisterD** · 12th June 2014, 09:00

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

In respect of who one votes for I personally like the stance Colin Craigs Conservative party has on many issues.

There's nothing "Conservative" about the CCCP other than blue signs and the word in their name, aside from the lack of anti-Chinese rhetoric, he's virtually indistinguishable from Winston First.

He's just using the Green Party trick of using a well-known international brand and hoping nobody looks at his policies.

**Akzle** · 12th June 2014, 09:20

Originally Posted by MisterD

There's nothing "Conservative" about the CCCP other than blue signs and the word in their name, aside from the lack of anti-Chinese rhetoric, he's virtually indistinguishable from Winston First.

He's just using the Green Party trick of using a well-known international brand and hoping nobody looks at his policies.

shush! that would require critical thinking and an understanding greater than that required to recognise the colours on the flags... something comrade robert seems to lack...

**Ocean1** · 12th June 2014, 09:47

Originally Posted by haydes55

I would love it if I knew politicians policies before voting, who knew a vote for John Key was a vote for selling off SOEs?

You're joking, right? It was front page on their manifesto, prime-time TV debates, national hand wringing for months.

The one thing you can't accuse National of is doing something other than what they said they would.

Originally Posted by MisterD

Welcome to the dog that is MMP. Sold to the great NZ unwashed and unthinking as a marvellous panacea to all the ills of "unrepresentative" systems, in practice a very efficient device for concentrating more power with the politicians who get to introduce anything they like as a result of "coalition negotiations" and the votes of party lists stacked with their drones.

Correct. It's tempting to conclude that the bulk of those that voted for it swallowed the theory that the party getting the most votes wasn't the most representative party because they may not get 50% of the vote. If you were being generous. If not you might be tempted to explore their arithmetic in more detail, but seriously, who has time for that sort of masochism?

As it stands we went from a system where you voted for a known set of policies to one where you have no fucking idea what you’re voting for, and you can only hope that your choice can do what you asked them to without any of the post-election back-room deals you have no say in whatsoever.

**pritch** · 12th June 2014, 09:53

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

In respect of who one votes for I personally like the stance Colin Craigs Conservative party has on many issues.

I used to think that, but the issues that bother me relate to Colin Craig's alternative reality. Reportedly he isn't convinced man has made it to the moon as yet.

Got a glimpse of your worst nightmare the other day Robert, I saw a poll "who will you vote for in the election". I wondered how the Mana/Internet party were doing.
At first I couldn't see them mentioned, so I re-checked the lower rated parties - no sign. So I went back to square one, and there they were - Number One, top of the pile. It hadn't occurred to me to look there.

Bet that sent shivers up Key's spine (assuming he actually had one).

**SMOKEU** · 12th June 2014, 10:13

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

In respect of who one votes for I personally like the stance Colin Craigs Conservative party has on many issues. But the big problem is one has to vote National to keep the left wing parties and their destructive policies out of Government

Jew Key's government is left wing. They just pretend otherwise.

**MisterD** · 12th June 2014, 10:18

Originally Posted by pritch

So I went back to square one, and there they were - Number One, top of the pile. It hadn't occurred to me to look there.

Bet that sent shivers up Key's spine (assuming he actually had one).

No, I don't think JK worries about anything on Bummer Bradbury's "Daily Blog"...it's probably just BB himself voting multiple times.

**Ulsterkiwi** · 12th June 2014, 10:18

[QUOTE=pritch;1130732274]I used to think that, but the issues that bother me relate to Colin Craig's alternative reality. Reportedly he isn't convinced man has made it to the moon as yet./QUOTE]

what? when did that happen? it didnt appear on Twitterbookagram and noone in Twilight mentioned it, like totally.....

**oldrider** · 12th June 2014, 10:46

Originally Posted by pritch

I used to think that, but the issues that bother me relate to Colin Craig's alternative reality. Reportedly he isn't convinced man has made it to the moon as yet.

That bullshit was just a media beat up ... I was listening to that "interview" and he didn't actually say that ... but media is what media wants to be!

Not a Craige supporter either, I was just listening wondering who the hell he actually was!!!

Bloody lying twisting media bastards!

**Robert Taylor** · 12th June 2014, 11:29

Originally Posted by pritch

I used to think that, but the issues that bother me relate to Colin Craig's alternative reality. Reportedly he isn't convinced man has made it to the moon as yet.

Got a glimpse of your worst nightmare the other day Robert, I saw a poll "who will you vote for in the election". I wondered how the Mana/Internet party were doing.
At first I couldn't see them mentioned, so I re-checked the lower rated parties - no sign. So I went back to square one, and there they were - Number One, top of the pile. It hadn't occurred to me to look there.

Bet that sent shivers up Key's spine (assuming he actually had one).

Pritch, it would in the end event be EVERYONES worst nightmare!