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    Tikanga vs Crown Law - thoughts?

    Geez, after watching Sunday tonight the lead story about James Takamore's partner and children and his whanau from up north, how on earth will this be resolved?

    My personal viewpoint: I understand tikanga dictates a person's resting place be the whenua of their birth; however this man, to all intents and purposes, had turned his back on his whanau for a life completely divorced from them. I'd have thought that if his personal wish had been to be buried up north he and his partner would have discussed the issue at some point in their 20 years together. As it stands, it appears his "whanau" give no thought to the feelings of those closest to them - and surely those two children should be considered whanau by blood - and override all considerations but their own.

    Tuhoe have never been backwards in coming forward when it comes to challenging the law and I guess many could see them as "doing what's right by Maori" in terms of standing up for traditional beliefs. Sadly though in this case they only appear belligerent and determined to do what they want no matter the bigger picture. For a man who seems to have turned his back on them, they are determined to hold on to him by any means now he no longer can have any say for himself.

    The message is, as the son said, they can do whatever they like and even the Police will back down. Now, what I find outrageous is that if their own council had given their permission for the exhumation to be done, other parties within the tribe can over ride that. Where is the unity in their leadership over their people if their own can refuse to bow to it?

    How do you reckon it's going to be resolved?
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    It's just being used as a political tool and they (Tuhoe) know that soft cock do gooder PC flakes will bow down to them!

    They should honour the treaty ... oops they didn't sign it did they but what are the conditions of their settlement? ... Interesting questions!

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    Gaol the lot of them for contempt of court and bury the bloke in Chch.
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    Another Crown apology for upsetting tuhoe plus more confidential monetary compensation seems to be the pattern
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    It is a tragedy!
    It is a disgrace!
    It is culturally offensive!
    Human, cultural and personal. It offends!

    I am blunt with this, the man should be buried by his missus and his kids, where they need him to be, for them. 20 years of him being with this woman surely overrides the tikanga.

    It offends me that people that he had nothing to do with for 20 years, took his body, and buried it.

    His children are his whanau, and their wishes must be respected.

    They left him overnight in the care of a funeral director, and his remains were stolen.

    I am outraged the NZ Police have allowed them to prevent an order of the court from being upheld.

    Plod will arrest me if I don't appear in court when summoned, but will step down from this.

    Shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    en.

    I am outraged the NZ Police have allowed them to prevent an order of the court from being upheld.

    Plod will arrest me if I don't appear in court when summoned, but will step down from this.

    Shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    Plod will arrest me if I don't appear in court when summoned, but will step down from this.
    cos y'all a cracker ass beyotch and consent to be governed every four years...:

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    I would've just tasered them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    I would've just tasered them.
    with a AK47....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimO View Post
    with a AK47....
    Bwhahahahaha ... we are armed and well able to shoot back ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Bwhahahahaha ... we are armed and well able to shoot back ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElCoyote View Post
    Tame took us on a course in the Urewera's once...................
    yeah, that went well
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    Quote Originally Posted by buggerit View Post
    yeah, that went well
    as usual: until the cops turned up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    It is a tragedy!
    It is a disgrace!
    It is culturally offensive!
    Human, cultural and personal. It offends!


    Shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessBandit View Post
    tikanga dictates a person's resting place be the whenua of their birth
    Anyone who claims this is full of their own bullshit.
    There are literally 1000's of "old tales" in Maori culture of someone being buried where they were not born. Or buried where they were loved.
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