Does GOD approve of your motorcycle riding?

**Zed** · 24th January 2004, 00:31

For all you believers in God, is He happy with your motorcycling?

Strange question I know, but honestly the LORD is interested in EVERYTHING pertaining to His creation, including motorcycles.

The Bible teaches that obeying the laws of the land is obedience to God:
Romans 13:1-2 ¶Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

My contention is that too many of us "Christians" give in to the temptation to speed ridiculously and ride dangerously, therefore breaking the law of the land and ultimately the law of God.

Something to think about. Discuss?...sure.

No doubt there will be some scoffers!

Zed

**Big Dog** · 24th January 2004, 02:53

Originally Posted by Zed

For all you believers in God, is He happy with your motorcycling?

When god thinks I have sinned to much he will "smite me with a mighty sword, fashioned of flames anf thunder!" can't remember exactly but I think its in corinthians.

All of mans sins shall be forgiven through christ our lord
part of the standard mass.

God does not expect us to remain free of sin, just do the best we can, and praise him for giving us his son that we may be forgiven through the blood of christ.

No man is without sin.

**Big Dog** · 24th January 2004, 02:56

Originally Posted by Zed

My contention is that too many of us "Christians" give in to the temptation to speed ridiculously and ride dangerously, therefore breaking the law of the land and ultimately the law of God.

Something to think about. Discuss?...sure.

No doubt there will be some scoffers!

Zed

This may explain why it is that every bin Ihave ever had has been at below 60kmph but has been on the same day I did 180kmph plus.

**Zed** · 24th January 2004, 06:23

Originally Posted by Big Dog

When god thinks I have sinned to much he will "smite me with a mighty sword, fashioned of flames anf thunder!" can't remember exactly but I think its in corinthians.

All of mans sins shall be forgiven through christ our lord
part of the standard mass.

God does not expect us to remain free of sin, just do the best we can, and praise him for giving us his son that we may be forgiven through the blood of christ.

No man is without sin.

What you say is true.

I'm not sure of the verse you meant, maybe- "Deuteronomy 32:41 If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me"

God is overwhelmingly good to those who have accepted His terms of salvation by faith, they become sons and daughters of God through spiritual adoption- as a Father he will chasten them accordingly if they "sin too much". But the verse above is specifically aimed at God's enemies (the wicked, those who reject Him)- to them He will manifest His power and wrath upon in the day of judgment. Sometimes that comes in this life...all I say is that we motorcyclist believers need to be mindful that God sees EVERYTHING- omnipresent & omniscient remember.

I appreciate your acknowledgement of the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Zed

**Zed** · 24th January 2004, 06:26

Originally Posted by Big Dog

This may explain why it is that every bin Ihave ever had has been at below 60kmph but has been on the same day I did 180kmph plus.

The old saying "someone upstairs is looking after you" is often true.

Many would say you were lucky (Lucifer)...I say that it's more divine intervention!

Zed

**What?** · 24th January 2004, 08:52

Originally Posted by Zed

The Bible teaches that obeying th laws of the land is obedience to God:

Biblical proof of the Roman senators belief that they were themselves gods?

**MikeL** · 24th January 2004, 09:10

Hmmm...
This thread has the potential for some serious unpleasantness.
Sex, politics and other irrelevancies I can handle (and indeed relish). The trouble with religion is that there is often absolutely no common ground for reconciliation of beliefs. One man's devotion is another man's fanaticism.
Let's keep our religious beliefs to ourselves, eh?

**What?** · 24th January 2004, 09:17

With you every inch of the way, Mike.

**Jackrat** · 24th January 2004, 09:22

Well you did ask so try not to be to offended.
The whole christian god thing is nothing more than crowd control.
The biggist fraud ever played on mankind.
You may have noticed every war ever,Both sides had some god on their side.
The combined christian churches are without doubt the single most murdering
thieving organisations in the world.
So you reckon because some politican passes a law it becomes the word of god.

Hey do you want to buy a bridge.

**bluninja** · 24th January 2004, 09:39

Originally Posted by Zed

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The Bible teaches that obeying th laws of the land is obedience to God:
Romans 13:1 ¶Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

If one took this at face value, then the nazis should be exonerated because they were following the laws of the land, and thus god. And it also makes one question as to why god would put such powers in place to heap such suffering on the world.

There is enough scripture in the bible that can be taken out of context and perverted for any purpose. Perhaps the following scripture could indicate that we should all ride like maniacs, hating every moment of it, until we die??

The man who loves his life will lose it, while the man who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life. John 12:25

Perhaps instead of focussing on speeding and breaking mans laws you might consider keeping all the law

The entire law is summed up in a single command: "Love your neighbor as yourself. Galatians 5:14"

If posts like this keep popping up then it might need it's own section of the forum

Perhaps this would be better discussed ina christian forum rather than a biking one (albeit with christian bikers contributing)....or perhaps this is part of your evangelising????

**Zed** · 24th January 2004, 09:48

Originally Posted by What?

Biblical proof of the Roman senators belief that they were themselves gods?

Yes, & look what happened to one of them...

Acts 12:21-24 And upon a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat upon his throne, and made an oration unto them. And the people gave a shout, saying, It is the voice of a god, and not of a man. And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost. But the word of God grew and multiplied.

Zed

**What?** · 24th January 2004, 10:15

I feel you should change tack Zed. This appears to be a place where an evangelist may become seriously offended. Maybe worse.
If you want a theological argument, I am keen. But not here - I come here for bike talk.

What MikeL and I were getting at (and Jackrat) is that religious belief has caused the downfall of entire civilisations. We don't want it to be the downfall of this board.

**Andrew** · 24th January 2004, 10:30

Originally Posted by Zed

My contention is that too many of us "Christians" give in to the temptation to speed ridiculously and ride dangerously, therefore breaking the law of the land and ultimately the law of God.

Something to think about. Discuss?...sure.

No doubt there will be some scoffers!

Zed

So how do you explain this one CK?

**mangell6** · 24th January 2004, 11:13

Originally Posted by What?

What MikeL and I were getting at (and Jackrat) is that religious belief has caused the downfall of entire civilisations. We don't want it to be the downfall of this board.

I would say that it is an individual or a group that has 'used their god' as the 'reason' to do what they want to do. The three major western religons have a lot in common, ask Abraham

Just remember that ALL people who ride motorbikes belong to gangs, are lawbreakers and deal in drugs. - Ask enough people and they will tell you that,

Just my two cents worth

Mike

PS This topic scares a lot of people as they ass u me that you are trying to make them do something that they don't want to.

PPS My opinion can never be wrong - cos its mine.

**Marmoot** · 24th January 2004, 11:37

Originally Posted by MikeL

Hmmm...
This thread has the potential for some serious unpleasantness.
Sex, politics and other irrelevancies I can handle (and indeed relish). The trouble with religion is that there is often absolutely no common ground for reconciliation of beliefs. One man's devotion is another man's fanaticism.
Let's keep our religious beliefs to ourselves, eh?

I believe in you too, Mike!!! All the way!!!