on the up
Okay - I had to bite ... and looked at God's public profile ... and then checked out his home page.
What do you know - there is no www.heaven.com
But there is a www.hell.com and a www.satan.com
[sigh] what's the world coming to?
Don't bother looking - they are porn.
And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.
- James Dickey, Cherrylog Road.
Yes... Well, I'm having trouble getting the funds together for my site... Donations accepted at a church near you :sneaky2:Originally Posted by celticno6
Scooter boy
I had to check and yes they are porn
Its not a Ber belly, its a fuel tank for a sex machine!!!1
Nana
Lets try to follow the logic.My original post wasn't aimed at determining whether or not speeding was a sin. I assumed that the reader would know that it was!
Zed
1 you assume that we already know that speeding = sin.
2 you post to that effect anyway.
3 you seem surprised to get responses of the discussion as opposed to agreement type.
4 despite assuming that all of the above was true your initial post was in the form of a question.
5 despite assuming that all of the above was true you expected a response.
I don't get it. why would you go to a discussion forum to ask a question with a predetermined (rhetorical) answer.
You either;
A Wanted everybody to agree... Perhaps it should have been poll.
B Wanted no one to bother answering because you beleive everyone thinks you are right thereby eliminating the need to reply.... consider you assumtion rebutted this is already page 10.
C Wanted an honest answer but were unprepared for the onslaught of honesty that followed.
D Are only a christian so as to appear more contentious.
Before you reply.
I am not a christian per se.
I am not an atheist (I believe there is a god)
I am a born again agnostic. There is a god but religion is wrong, and contrary to the will of god.
I believe that the bible is not a collection of historical fact (as it has been translated to many times before reaching its current format. Until the 1200's Jesus was a black man. The greco roman language it was translated from in 1200 is the first mention of mary's virginity, until that translation she was just unwed. But the white roman catholic pope could not allow the populice to continue to worship a black, jewish, bastard who lived in slavery. Source The Church a disection of truth. Note this book does not bag but rather supports faith and religion it meerly points out how over the last 1000 years the White Moral Majority have altered the bible to suit themselves.
This book was given to me to read by a methodist minister as I had more questions about contradictory scripture than he could answer. He beleived as I do that it is our duty to listen to the opinions of others but to make up our own mind, and that the bible is merely a collection of true stories mixed with analogies).
Tight buns
Hmmmmmm....how do you figure I'm not a believer or a christian? Because I have a passionately different point of view to you? That my interpretation of my relationship with god and how I behave is different to yours? I have to accept your assertion that you are a believer and christian, but your manner of behaving in this post leads me to question that....hence my post.
As for your veiled threat implied (but that's my interpretation of your words) that you would be less gracious in future posts; well that's for you to deal with not me.
Finally I will not be gagged by you on this post. I didn't ask you not to quote scripture...that's your interpretation, and whether you quote or not reflects on you not on me.
I have not taken offense at anything in this thread, regardless of how robust my responses appear to be. I think this forum is not the way to spread gods word (refer to my first response), and I think CKs suggestion of interested people meeting for a coffee is great....and may result in this post coming to a natural (or unatural) end.
Legalise anarchy
Nana
Whats your point, these were discussions with individuals between their god and thmselves. I am only aware of god laying down the law twice Thou shalt not eat apples! (surely an analogy for partaking of sin.)
And the ten commandments.
If I heard a voice in my head telling me I had to go buy a gun and hunt jews would you do likewise or would you expect corroboration of the order? Maybe by way of at the very least a small miracle?
Before you answer I would like to remind you the KKK is a Christian fraternity founded on the belief that god had promised the founder that god had given him the right to slaves because he was white. (I am not saying christianity is wrong just be wary the message you hear second hand.)
Nana
So far I have had education in Catholicism, Methodism and Presbttarian. I have also sought instruction on Bhudism, Judeaism, muslim, and mormonism. I have come to the conclusion that no one church is right because they all suffer the same fatal flaw they have been written and disciplined by humans.
Judgemental? No. Critical? Yes. Because the one thing my search for enlightenment has brought me it is the knowledge that constructive criticism is more powerful than the most passionate of platitudes. Anyone here will tell you I am routinely corrected, critiqued or otherwise abused over mistatements, if I wasn't there would be little point in comming back as there would be no further knowledge to be gained.
If you are honest in your belief in got you will welcome criticism if only because it means they are listening to your message.
If not perhaps you stand to lose something by not listening and therefore being unable to enjoy the succulent fruit that is knowledge.
God may have inspired you to start this thread for no other reason than giving you insight into your fellow man, or he may have meant for you to take the double blessing of insight into you self.
Whorem Fore
We have a new member, GOD, he will be able to resolve this....
Norf Welly Massif
Sorry Bigdog, but I think your definition of agnostic is incorrect. I've always thought it meant a person that believes it is impossible to know if if God exists.
Immature and proud of it.
What does God ride?
Lou
Nana
My understanding is an agnostic is one who neither beleives nor disbeleives in god..... on the other hand I'm not a born again christian either
so I define myself as a compromising born again agnostic.... I created a new term to suit my self image. How else do you think the english language evolved.
Work? I want to go ride!
however people align their morals with their way of living, I think the most important thing is that in the deepest part of their soul, they are truly truly content. If thats not the case then somethings not lining up. But if it is the case then they have no cause to change their beliefs and have excercised their right to free will to its full extent.
I guess i'm just really worried that not all people who don't believe in the God (the one I know that loves me) have thought it through because thats a huge tragedy. If people don't want to know God then thats their call and no one elses but as Mike has pointed out, its the biggest decision anyone can make and it should be the most informed decision as well.
I think that worry is what drives a lot of christians to share what they believe and also be seen as too provocative. its a fine line that needs wisdom and respect but like the slogan goes 'you'll never please all of the people all of the time'.
Whatever your belief is: BE TRULY TRULY HAPPY within yourself before staking your soul on it.
Nana
Would it be a fair statement then to say that the religion should not define the people so much as the people should define their faith? (ps not being pissy honest question.)
Soo-deep
Apparently a CT110
P.S. Holly shit! (please excuse the pun), I can't keep track of your disscutions. Man, these are some serious thoughts.
Seated in heavenly places
2 Samuel 22:7-17 In my distress I called upon the LORD, and cried to my God: and he did hear my voice out of his temple, and my cry did enter into his ears. Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations of heaven moved and shook, because he was wroth. There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it. He bowed the heavens also, and came down; and darkness was under his feet. And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: and he was seen upon the wings of the wind. And he made darkness pavilions round about him, dark waters, and thick clouds of the skies. Through the brightness before him were coals of fire kindled. The LORD thundered from heaven, and the most High uttered his voice. And he sent out arrows, and scattered them; lightning, and discomfited them. And the channels of the sea appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the LORD, at the blast of the breath of his nostrils. He sent from above, he took me; he drew me out of many waters;
Yeah, my God rides too!!
Zed
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