Does GOD approve of your motorcycle riding?

[SPman]

No doubt there will be some scoffers!

Too bloody right!


However, my God is, perfectly happy with what I do!

[wkid_one]

Well you did ask so try not to be to offended.
The whole christian god thing is nothing more than crowd control.
The biggist fraud ever played on mankind.
You may have noticed every war ever,Both sides had some god on their side.
The combined christian churches are without doubt the single most murdering
thieving organisations in the world.
So you reckon because some politican passes a law it becomes the word of god.
Hey do you want to buy a bridge.

This post I MUST agree with

[Draco]

Someone give this guy a SIGN

[750Y]

this must be a wind-up.

[KATWYN]

Why do people get so passionate about religeon anyway?
if we all just respect everyones beleifs and opinions the
world would be a better place.
All that scripture being thrown around, can mean anything to
anyone....its all about perspectives. No two people
have the same perspective on any one given thing (psych fact). Our
history, environment, culture etc influence the way we individually
see the world and create our personal beliefs/faith..

And yes, I personally think scripture was the best thing human
beings have ever had given to them. he he these
little angel icons had their purpose huh?

Right..OK whats next ...politics?

[Zed]

Hiya Katwyn,

Firstly, you have great taste in bikes...the R6 is spectacular! Good on you.

My original post was actually directed at believers in God. I am keen to hear their perspective as bikers, that's all. I have had half a dozen positive private messages sent to me in relation to this post by believers, generally we are in agreement. I guess they don't feel the liberty to express their beliefs publickly (sic.) on this site because of the ridicule that they would get from others...just as I have with this post! (doesn't matter to me though)

We are passionate about "religion" because we love God and the life we have chosen to live- it's that simple. There is something special that happens to a person when they put their faith and trust in God- this cannot be explained or understood until one takes this step, and until this happens the things of God are foolish and confusing to the unbelieving heart.

I appreciate what you said about the scripture.

Take care out there,


Zed

[franco]

I know I have a choice not to read a post about religion. I know I have a choice not to respond to a post about religion. Even when it's thinly disguised as a discussion about bikes & riding.

Religion is a powerful subject. There are many powerful subjects. However, this is a forum about the subject of motorcycles. I admire your passion and conviction of belief in god and christianity. I also hope you find it in your heart to discuss personal theological beliefs "outside" with other christians.

Happy to talk bikes. Happy to talk most everything else. I might be out of line here, but please talk bible and god in another forum/ place.

cher cher

[Ogri]

For all you believers in God, is He happy with your motorcycling?

I don't give a flying f...k

I'm with you Jackrat - biggest story book ever written

[georgedubyabush]

I don't give a flying f...k

I'm with you Jackrat - biggest story book ever written

Agreed. I dont hold anything at all against Christians however, nothing wrong with a bit of positive moral fibre, as long as it isnt forced down my throat. Interesting that many former gang members seem to jump into Christianity. Are they seeking repentence or do some people just 'need' something to follow?

The whole 'law of the land' thing... from what I remember of legal history 101... Our law came from the Brits, which was based on Roman laws, which was based on the 10 Commandments... so I guess in a round about way the road code might be seen by some as breaking gods law. Sure hasnt stopped me.

[wkid_one]

IMHO - religion was used as the basis for the rich staying rich and the poor staying poor. It goes back to a time - when the rich were few and the poor were plenty and had the rich not controlled the poor, the poor would have revolted.

I have NO problems with people believing in a higher faith or ultimate destiny - however I myself am yet to see any justification or validation that there is in fact a higher power.

It is ironic, as Jack Rat said, many of the historical wars/battles etc ALL had a religious involvement and religious purpose.

Also, there is a hell of a lot more empirical and scientific evidence to support the Darwin theory of evolution.

I just question some of the tenants of religion. For example - why is the CHRISTIAN view of the world correct and not the Maori, Hindu, Aboriginian views?? Is this just purely due to numbers and support?

I will ALWAYS question following a ethos that dictates you have limited control over your existance.

As for religion being a saving grace - to many people have DIED at the hands of religion, too many young boys have been VIOLATED at the hands of religion, to many wars have been financially back by religion for my devote following.

Also - if God exists in everything and is all around us - why in fact to we need churchs and or preists - surely we can converse with God whereever we are - as espoused by the Christadelphians.....

Take Ireland as an example - who's religion is right??? Surely it wasn't Gods higher intention to have these people fighting over him?

I am, and will remain and Atheist until such time as proven otherwise.

Many kingdoms, emperors, dictators and Fuhrurs used Religion as a reason/excuse/purpose to murder/rape and plllage their way through this world.

And before you ask - yes I have read the Bible from cover to cover - it is a good story......a bit waffley tho but you probably get that when a number of different people contribute to a story.

Also - why do we refer to the Devil as a person - from my recollections no where in the bible does it refer to a physical being? More just the intents of man.

And before you come back and try and convince me of the wrongs of my beliefs DON'T.....religion is a personal preference and their is nothing worse than someone trying to ram the 'God does exist' argument down your throat.

This is just MY opinion and my belief...and I not disparging your beliefs just presenting my reasons for remaining a non-believer at this stage

[georgedubyabush]

And before you ask - yes I have read the Bible from cover to cover - it is a good story......a bit waffley tho but you probably get that when a number of different people contribute to a story.

And sooo preachy...

[merv]

I've always figured that there are so many bad bastards in this world (their exploits are in the news everyday) there must be a waiting list to get into Hell so no use going with the other side you might end up there too quick. Ride on.

As for religion, given the bulk of people on this earth live in China, India, Indonesia etc and there won't be too many Christians there, how can the Christians truly believe they are right? Are all these other guys so wrong?

When the Mormons spot me I say "no worries boys, I've got my own religion - motorcycles".

[Big Dog]

Belief in god never hurt anybody, religeon has subjugated the masses for all time.
Zealots and religeon are responsible for more murder in the name of their god than any other motive. There is way to much beauty in our world for it to all be one big coincidence.

The problem is people who decide how the masses should behave. If you take a close look at all of the religions they all boil down to the one principal, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

My church is the great out doors.
I do my best to follow the word.
But I beleive that the church is a corrupt institution. If you want to worship god do so in your deeds to others. The world needs more samaritans and less evengelists.

The only religeous type I loathe are those who push their beliefs on others, or try to suppress those who are different.

If you want to show youre allegiance to god, Budha, Jesus, whoever stop telling everyone how great your god is and show them. Otherwise it just sounds like you are trying to sell yourself.

[Lou Girardin]

Going down to Orere Pt today, God told me that he was having a ball and to pick it up a bit. Too slow.
Hey Zed, your interpretation of something written in another time and a different place, may not actually be correct.
Can we keep proselytising off the forum?
Lou

[wkid_one]

Belief in god never hurt anybody, religeon has subjugated the masses for all time.
Zealots and religeon are responsible for more murder in the name of their god than any other motive. There is way to much beauty in our world for it to all be one big coincidence.

The problem is people who decide how the masses should behave. If you take a close look at all of the religions they all boil down to the one principal, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

My church is the great out doors.
I do my best to follow the word.
But I beleive that the church is a corrupt institution. If you want to worship god do so in your deeds to others. The world needs more samaritans and less evengelists.

The only religeous type I loathe are those who push their beliefs on others, or try to suppress those who are different.

If you want to show youre allegiance to god, Budha, Jesus, whoever stop telling everyone how great your god is and show them. Otherwise it just sounds like you are trying to sell yourself.

WELL SAID............