Diesel vs petrol vehicles

[HenryDorsetCase]

The only reason anyone should get a diesel is so that they can pretend to be a good ole boy and roll some coal.

rollin' coal, y'all. Its a thing. PS you need a pickup. And to be Murican.

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[buggerit]

My next ute will run on 95 and Michellin tyres

[Big Dog]

mud? You know theres a road over there now eh...

You obviously haven't ridden the southern motorway in rough weather then?

By mud I was referring to but lacking the words for the filthy brown and black shit like substances that accumulate all over the bike and my gear on the southern. This appears first as a fine powder but add water and it turns into something resembling the runs.
Based on the odours the black sludge is smog. The brown sludge is farm dust.

I could live with the farm dust. It is the proliferation of pollution that bothers me.

But yes on particularly foul nights there is also a spray of mud from other vehicles.

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[gjm]

Many STILL believe running costs ARE fuel costs ...

Haha, yeah and they're either called Richard Cranium or blonde is their natural hair colour

Fuel is one of very few constants that can readily be compared between different vehicles, which may be why it is so widely described as the running cost. Price of parts, depreciation, hourly rate for a workshop, tyre wear, and many other things obviously can and do vary considerably, but really ought to also be considered.

[SPman]

Hmmmm - on your figures, our i30 wagon 1.6 Turbo diesel averaging 5.8l/100km over 60,000km
NZ - Diesel $86/1000km + $58 RUC = $144/1000km. (@$1.48/l) - We do about 800km/week, so fuel @ about NZ$116/week
W.A. - Diesel @ $1.61/litre (ave) = AU $94.70/1000km! - so fuel @ about AU$75/week. (NZ $81)

Something seriously wrong with NZ fuel pricing!
The RUC should be included in the diesel price, up to 3.5tn - lots of diesel cars/vans/utes on the road. - RUC additional on top of that. It works like that over here - vehicles over 4.5tns pay extra RUC, regardless of petrol or diesel powered.

Our previous 1600 Getz, over 200,000km averaged 7.2l/100km - @ NZ$2.19/l = NZ$158/1000km - so, on NZ rates the diesel is still cheaper on fuel. 91 in W.A. is $1.45/l ave, so AU$105/1000km

[Tazz]

I've always had diesels but this will be my last one (2.5L Merc). Just over all the costs. Diesel ute rego is criminal now too.

[R650R]

I'd like a diesel but it would have to be one of the good ones.
The Japs do make good ones ie Izuzu, Fuso/Mitsi etc, its only some of the earlier stuff in 80's and 90's that were poor crossovers from petrol donor engine designs.
Drove a late model 2L BMW diesel when in UK and whoa did that baby take off like a rocket, and quiet.
The problem is most peoples experiences are probably from work hacks that have been thrashed to death, like the alarm co wagon in my early days with 600kg of gear in the boot!!!
Us mere mortals must buy petrol as otherwise the oil companies have a product going to waste, their is already ample industry demand for diesel supplies. So the Elite cant have us peasants driving around in diesels and be left with tankers of unsold petrol...

I want a diesel to be able to do this, very cool http://www.businessinsider.com.au/co...k-smoke-2014-7 that out to wipe the smug smile off any prius owner

[JimO]

i have a near new Hilux Deisel thats always loaded and tow a heavy trailor, the V6 petrol Hilux would cost more to run using it like that, i know a guy that has one that he runs empty all the time and it LOVES petrol, stick a couple of ton on the back and half a ton in it and it would be eyewateringly thirsty

[Akzle]

By mud I was referring to but lacking the words for the filthy brown and black shit like substances that accumulate all over the bike and my gear on the southern. This appears first as a fine powder but add water and it turns into something resembling the runs.
Based on the odours the black sludge is smog. The brown sludge is farm dust.

youre part of the problem dude.

[husaberg]

i have a near new Hilux Deisel thats always loaded and tow a heavy trailor, the V6 petrol Hilux would cost more to run using it like that, i know a guy that has one that he runs empty all the time and it LOVES petrol, stick a couple of ton on the back and half a ton in it and it would be eyewateringly thirsty

Mrs had a 2.4 Rav4 before see stole my Hilux v6 they ran about the same overall 9.6 liters /100km short trips on school run.........
I think you would find the load would make little difference the V6 is pretty under stressed and has a bout 100 more HP than the 3 liter Turbo diesel.

[SMOKEU]

...are you for fucking real?...what would make you want to state such a fucking ridiculous thing...experience or did someone tell you?...

Then why do Toyota use BMW diesels, and Suzuki and Mitsubishi with Renault diesels, if the Japanese can make such good diesels on their own? Japan simply has far too small a domestic diesel passenger car market to invest the same amount of money in diesel R&D like the Europeans have. In comparison to a good, modern European diesel, the Japanese diesels are thirsty and high maintenance.

[Big Dog]

youre part of the problem dude.

Aye and if I ever find a job that is as enjoyable as my current one (without paying less in wages) but outside of the major centers I won't be.

Ideal job would include a travel requirement of telecommute. There is very little I do at work I could not do just as easily if not more so from home. Bosses in this country like to see bums in the seats they pay for.

Almost everything I do is SQL, IIS, Server OS or Storage, almost all remotely. I can't remember the last time I touched a physical server.

If it were up to me I would be there in person 1 day a week and work remotely 4.

Would save the company money.
Would save me money. Even factoring in building an office out the back so I don't get distracted.
More importantly my productivity would be higher and I would have an extra 2 hours a day to spend with the family.
This working in buildings centralised into a cesspit of.....
Gah, I could go on for hours but I wont... time to go spend time with the kids... :P

[FJRider]

Then why do Toyota use BMW diesels

http://www.carscoops.com/2014/02/toy...ly-of-bmw.html

"Sharing the knowledge" ... why invent when you can copy. I doubt if the "sharing' will be for free though ...

and Suzuki and Mitsubishi with Renault diesels

Actually ... Nissan do. And Mercedes ...

Since 1999, Nissan has been part of the Renault–Nissan Alliance, a partnership between Nissan and French automaker Renault. As of 2013, Renault holds a 43.4% voting stake in Nissan, while Nissan holds a 15% non-voting stake in Renault.

[Akzle]

If it were up to me I would be there in person 1 day a week and work remotely 4.

Would save the company money.
Would save me money. Even factoring in building an office out the back so I don't get distracted.
More importantly my productivity would be higher and I would have an extra 2 hours a day to spend with the family.
This working in buildings centralised into a cesspit of.....
Gah, I could go on for hours but I wont... time to go spend time with the kids... :P

you should do that,

[caspernz]

Bosses in this country like to see bums in the seats they pay for.

Yep, the good old colonial management style that's still in vogue in many companies actually works against them in the long run