One piece race suit, anyone?

**Paul in NZ** · 11th July 2014, 08:08

Frankly it looks as ugly as the $380 1 piece I have but thankfully mines black on black... so the crazy clumsy design chosen to minimise the work for the maker rather than for good looks or effectiveness does not show. Red white and black? Nah... I think mine has about 17 stitch's in total and the rest is held together with camel spit and boiled down goat hooves. Its held up OK actually - probably because its made from the bits of leather (I think its leather) no one else wanted to use as its the skin off a cow that was force fed lead for several years......

**Edbear** · 11th July 2014, 09:04

Originally Posted by nodrog

Racers are thick, it would be more benificial to have them assesed by somebody that actually manufactures leather race suits. Rather than somebody who justs wears what they are sponsored.

And an endorsement doesnt mean jack shit unless there is a name behind it for 2 reasons.

1, it allows the consumer to form an opinion of the review based on how they veiw said persons values.

2, it proves you arent lying.

1/ It's not an endorsement as such, but the opinion of a racer I respect.

2/ Given this is KB, I would have been surprised if he had said, "Yes,"

3/ I have clearly said that if anyone is seriously interested they are more than welcome to have it checked out by someone they trust.

4/ I can't be more honest than that!

5/ In my experience, the good racers are quite particular about their gear and rarely wear "off the shelf" suits. What do you do?

Here are the specs.
1- 1.3-1.4mm drum dyed top-grain cowhide.
2-Nylon stitching 3 stitches per cm.
3-YKK zippers.
4-CE Removable armour on Elbows, Shoulders, Knees and Back/Spine.
5-Extra CE certified padding used throughout suit, where depends on style.
6-Leather motorbike suits in 02 Pieces come with attaching YKK zippers on pants and jacket.
7-Arms are pre-curved.
8-Interior of leather motorbike suits are mesh lined.
9-Knee-pucks Velcro removable.

Make of it what you will.

**Edbear** · 11th July 2014, 09:07

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

Frankly it looks as ugly as the $380 1 piece I have but thankfully mines black on black... so the crazy clumsy design chosen to minimise the work for the maker rather than for good looks or effectiveness does not show. Red white and black? Nah... I think mine has about 17 stitch's in total and the rest is held together with camel spit and boiled down goat hooves. Its held up OK actually - probably because its made from the bits of leather (I think its leather) no one else wanted to use as its the skin off a cow that was force fed lead for several years......

Haha! I'll try it on and see what it looks like on me. That may be worse, though as I have a face and figure molded by a chronic illness I am struggling to get on top of...

**nodrog:Me** · 11th July 2014, 09:32

Originally Posted by Edbear

.....Make of it what you will.

ok, lies.

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**Katman** · 11th July 2014, 09:34

Originally Posted by nodrog

ok, lies.

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It could just be the deranged ramblings of a prescription druggie.

**Quasievil** · 11th July 2014, 12:10

Originally Posted by Edbear

I'll ask him if he minds being mentioned.

(Remembering I sold the Qmoto business 2 + years ago but I USED to have them like that (like 6 years ago), but to be honest I wasn't satisfied with the Whole CE claims made, so I ditched them immediately and went to KNOX.
There are many of these types and styles around, they are NOT CE certified mostly as far as Im aware, and Certainly have no impact testing, so leave them alone I think.

**Quasievil** · 11th July 2014, 12:18

Originally Posted by bogan

Nah, if quasi the resident leather expert has taught us anything, its that unless you gear has eleventy seven stitches per yard it ain't worth shit.

One might say not putting this in online trading is a bit disingenuous in itself though.

Im pleased at least ONE thing is remembered.

None of it is rocket science, its ALL about the leather grade quality and the stitching and Armour (comfort to of course) THATS IT.
I travelled to a few countries, Pakistan included to visit the makers of gear..........seriously !! I think I went to at least 20 in Pakistan alone (dont be put of by Pakistan you would be surprised what big brands are made there) I don't know of another brand owner that has done that (just saying) anyway back on topic, you really have to be very careful about the quality stuff and I don't mind admitting (now) I got burnt on a couple of occasions trying to find another supplier, I ended up going back to my original guy........im off topic again ? the point is the main seam stitches are critical, thats along the sides and main back seams, you need at least 4 rows and with Kevlar or Bonded nylon, I find most suits dont have this, ask Sam at Celtic.............he has 6 !!!
most trademe stuff has 2, maybe 3 if youre lucky.

**BuzzardNZ** · 11th July 2014, 12:21

Sounds like you better book your tickets to Pakistan there Ed!

**bogan** · 11th July 2014, 12:32

Originally Posted by Quasievil

Im pleased at least ONE thing is remembered.

None of it is rocket science, its ALL about the leather grade quality and the stitching and Armour (comfort to of course) THATS IT.

Mate, nah, if the leather is bad you can just stitch across those bits. Might end up looking like a jumper nan made though

Originally Posted by Quasievil

the point is the main seam stitches are critical, thats along the sides and main back seams, you need at least 4 rows and with Kevlar or Bonded nylon, I find most suits dont have this, ask Sam at Celtic.............he has 6 !!!
most trademe stuff has 2, maybe 3 if youre lucky.

Seams legit

**macka77** · 11th July 2014, 14:56

Originally Posted by Edbear

1/ It's not an endorsement as such, but the opinion of a racer I respect.

2/ Given this is KB, I would have been surprised if he had said, "Yes,"

3/ I have clearly said that if anyone is seriously interested they are more than welcome to have it checked out by someone they trust.

4/ I can't be more honest than that!

5/ In my experience, the good racers are quite particular about their gear and rarely wear "off the shelf" suits. What do you do?

Here are the specs.
1- 1.3-1.4mm drum dyed top-grain cowhide.
2-Nylon stitching 3 stitches per cm.
3-YKK zippers.
4-CE Removable armour on Elbows, Shoulders, Knees and Back/Spine.
5-Extra CE certified padding used throughout suit, where depends on style.
6-Leather motorbike suits in 02 Pieces come with attaching YKK zippers on pants and jacket.
7-Arms are pre-curved.
8-Interior of leather motorbike suits are mesh lined.
9-Knee-pucks Velcro removable.

Make of it what you will.

The use of removable armor for a racer would be a joke. It's critical to have armour that's never going to shift in a crash

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**Crasherfromwayback** · 11th July 2014, 15:06

Originally Posted by macka77

The use of removable armor for a racer would be a joke. It's critical to have armour that's never going to shift in a crash

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But...but...a top road racer said they were awesome!!!

**nodrog:Me** · 11th July 2014, 15:13

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

But...but...a top road racer said they were awesome!!!

Yeah it was hippy the pipi, he races a pauasaki.

**Erelyes** · 11th July 2014, 19:28

Originally Posted by Edbear

Nylon stitching 3 stitches per cm.

Double, triple...?

**MVnut** · 11th July 2014, 20:22

Originally Posted by Erelyes

Double, triple...?

The rule is buy the best you can afford, however if a 'cheap' suit is cheap enough, it will obviously still offer better protection than jeans and a jumper etc. You get what you pay for, some of the cheapies are crap tho....just as some of the expensive gear is overpriced in comparison to others. I like Dainese but Lookwell and Schwabenleder are better in my opinion.