One piece race suit, anyone?

**scracha** · 12th July 2014, 20:15

Originally Posted by Edbear

I have an offer from someone else who knows about these things so I will get him to check it out as well.

I think you're pissing in the wind. I believe the main distributors are getting quality leathers with proper CE armour from reliable/consistent suppliers for well under $500. That's LANDED, including duty and GST.

**Edbear** · 12th July 2014, 20:53

Originally Posted by scracha

I think you're pissing in the wind. I believe the main distributors are getting quality leathers with proper CE armour from reliable/consistent suppliers for well under $500. That's LANDED, including duty and GST.

These are quality leathers with proper CE armour but nobody here believes it. I have to have independent endorsement for KB. I have made it clear that anyone seriously interested is welcome to have it checked out by someone they trust.

For some members here, nothing will change their minds. Not that I care what they think since they were never going to be purchasing anyway, but there are other members who have asked genuine questions and made considered comments.

**buggerit** · 12th July 2014, 21:00

Cut the arse out and keep it for the bedroom ?

**scracha** · 12th July 2014, 21:12

Originally Posted by Edbear

These are quality leathers with proper CE armour but nobody here believes it. I have to have independent endorsement for KB. I have made it clear that anyone seriously interested is welcome to have it checked out by someone they trust.

For some members here, nothing will change their minds. Not that I care what they think since they were never going to be purchasing anyway, but there are other members who have asked genuine questions and made considered comments.

Never said they weren't Ed but unless you're landing them for about $300 inc then by the time you get them marketed, establish a supply chain, deal with returns etc then you're wasting your time. Why's anyone gonna pay over $1000 for yet another unknown brand of leathers when the likes of Cycletreads are doing off the peg RST ones for what...$900....and I can look on the RST website and see pretty top notch riders all over the world using them. Made to measure custom leathers are a different category altogether.

Having leathers checked out by "someone I trust" or a "top racer" is akin to having a racing mate check out some well built Chinese helmet I've imported that just happens not to have an ANZ/SNELL/EU safety rating. i.e. Might be fantastic but if it's not tested in a lab, there's really no way of knowing and who would want to risk that?

**Edbear** · 13th July 2014, 02:26

Originally Posted by scracha

Never said they weren't Ed but unless you're landing them for about $300 inc then by the time you get them marketed, establish a supply chain, deal with returns etc then you're wasting your time. Why's anyone gonna pay over $1000 for yet another unknown brand of leathers when the likes of Cycletreads are doing off the peg RST ones for what...$900....and I can look on the RST website and see pretty top notch riders all over the world using them. Made to measure custom leathers are a different category altogether.

Having leathers checked out by "someone I trust" or a "top racer" is akin to having a racing mate check out some well built Chinese helmet I've imported that just happens not to have an ANZ/SNELL/EU safety rating. i.e. Might be fantastic but if it's not tested in a lab, there's really no way of knowing and who would want to risk that?

Sorry, you're right of course. My market, if I do decide to go ahead would not be the top end. I do know what the costs are for varying quality and you will pay double that for the top end gear.

If I do decide to go ahead I need to find a niche market and offer something unique. I have ideas in mind and people to talk to.

For me to try competing with the big names I would be wasting my time and money as you indicate. I have two companies that are growing very fast due to offering unique products with no competition or a new and better way of selling a special product.

I have a third part, the original range of products that I directly compete with the major players and for that I am in partnership with a large supplier and can beat anyone's prices while offering same or better quality.

I won't say more here, but I have a unique business and a very different way of doing things that is proving successful.

**unstuck** · 13th July 2014, 07:17

Which are you finding harder to sell, leathers or religion? Both look like crappy products to me.

**scracha** · 13th July 2014, 09:07

Originally Posted by Edbear

If I do decide to go ahead I need to find a niche market and offer something unique. I have ideas in mind and people to talk to.

You've got the likes of 1tonne doing the budget stuff and Qmoto doing custom made. It's not a huge market in NZ and I wouldn't imagine folks with the cash to buy 1 piece leathers and go racing are gonna stuff about to save a few hundy. If it's a reasonably priced version of something like the Dianese airsuit then I think you'd be on to a winner (patents not withstanding) but other than that I can't figure out any other gaps in the market but then again, I never made millions in business.

Originally Posted by Edbear

I won't say more here, but I have a unique business and a very different way of doing things that is proving successful.

Will keep my eyes posted.

**CHOPPA** · 13th July 2014, 13:07

Andrew is looking for a NZ supplier. His leathers are top notch, he offers off the shelf and full custom suits. They are worn all over the world by top racers.

http://www.ricondi.com.au/

**Edbear** · 13th July 2014, 13:33

Originally Posted by CHOPPA

Andrew is looking for a NZ supplier. His leathers are top notch, he offers off the shelf and full custom suits. They are worn all over the world by top racers.

http://www.ricondi.com.au/

No doubt good stuff, but I lack the resources to take on something that big. If I did have the necessary investment available it might be a good idea. With the gear I have, I'd be looking at small numbers as an added product and offer to a specific but small niche and if it works and starts growing then maybe looking at going further.

**bogan** · 13th July 2014, 14:16

Will you be branching out into medical insurance as an after sales support industry like you did with the batteries and fire extinguishers?

Seems you been given some pretty good criteria and evaluation of the aformentioned $1500 plus gear

perhaps take it on board this time instead of relying too heavily on your own 'research'.

**Drew** · 13th July 2014, 18:43

Do I look like this big a cock, when I'm picking on fucken Harris? He is at least outspoken and disagreeable, Ed on the other hand tries his best not to upset anyone.

**bogan** · 13th July 2014, 18:49

Originally Posted by Drew

Do I look like this big a cock, when I'm picking on fucken Harris? He is at least outspoken and disagreeable, Ed on the other hand tries his best not to upset anyone.

At least as big, no thread calling for Ed to fuck off is there? I seem to recall Ed asking if I could feed myself instead of answering a product question, hardly a good attempt at not upsetting anyone is it?

**Tony.OK** · 13th July 2014, 18:53

Originally Posted by Drew

Do I look like this big a cock, when I'm picking on fucken Harris? He is at least outspoken and disagreeable, Ed on the other hand tries his best not to upset anyone.

YES!!!!!
Now fuck off cunt!

**Drew** · 13th July 2014, 18:54

Okay then. Guess I'll put the little fucken gnome cunt on ignore, and stop giving him grief. We all feel justified in being bullies it seems, but the reality is we're just cunts.